We’ll turn our economy around, whether people like it or not' – Ramaphosa

Splinter

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When one is the sole bread winner for a family and you are responsible for multiple other people's future lives I am afraid "hope" is not a luxury you should be indulging in.
I would day the opposite. Unless you are emigrating, you should be putting on a positive face.


Has it? Where's your proof of this?
Zondo commission, various SOE CEO's let go etc etc. Where's your proof to the contrary?

both of which happened while Zuma was still in charge
You mean between time Cyril won the conference but before Zuma stepped down as president. Or before Cyril won it?

See above, dissecting things rationally at every step, hope is not a strategy btw
Hope is something you can do after you emigrate and escape from the most likely outcome, can always come back if things improve significantly.
See, dissecting the stuff rationally, hope can be employed. Besides, hope is not a strategy. Then again, being depressingly negative isn't either.
 

thechamp

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Being depressingly negative is at times a coping mechanism for those who have other issues.
 

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Zondo commission, various SOE CEO's let go etc etc. Where's your proof to the contrary?
Corruption has run rife for over a decade, it is going to take a lot more than commissions and moving deck chairs around to prove that it has been reduced. Any notable corrupt cadres in court yet?

hope is not a strategy. Then again, being depressingly negative isn't either.
doing visa applications and finding a job overseas is however a strategy, a strategy that one would avoid acting on if you have too much false hope
 

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Corruption has run rife for over a decade, it is going to take a lot more than commissions and moving deck chairs around to prove that it has been reduced. Any notable corrupt cadres in court yet?
Any notable corrupt cadre's still running SOE's?

I must say, at least you are positive in trying to win this debate :)
 

lkswan747

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So quit advertising and get on with turning the economy around stupid. Isn't that what a "good" president should do?
 

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I wonder how the plans for this most magnificent super-city is coming along.
The sh*t they come up with boggles the mind.
 

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do you also understand that this could be another way of keeping people entertained while time passes and they remain in power. i have not seen anything that gives me any other idea. all the while protecting themselves and presenting socialist ideas that cannot work here.

every time, there is some drama that goes on for years until the next election with promises of rectification when they need votes again.

this internal soap opera is just another version of it.
Agreed. Not sure what exactly people expect from Ramaphosa. He remains entirely committed to the Soviet-inspired National Democratic Revolution. He may or may not succeed in substantially reducing corruption but it hardly matters. The NDR assures failure.

But even ignore their overall policy direction failure. Take crime as one example. What type of foolish government would build a school for the poor when 2 to 3 are burnt to the ground every single week. They have still not publicly recognised that success can never be built on a burning foundation. First put out the fire.
 

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There's no chance for us
It's all been decided for us
What is this thing that runs our land
Keeps making kaak for us

Who wants to stay in SA
Who wants to stay in SA
Ooohwoohoooohoooh...
 
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