We won't be blackmailed by "greedy" SAA pilots – Government

[friedpiggy]

SAAPA just doesn't understand that qualifications and experience should not be determining factors in determining salary, Skin tone and loyalty to the anc are the real test of your worth.

 

[deesef]

I don't understand how some idiots keep complaining about a R2 billion salary bill for the pilots, but they don't mention the massive bailouts that the SAA received from our taxes!!! R2 billion is s pittance compared to what the ANC had STOLEN from our country.

 

[Milano]

“For the DPE and SAA Business Rescue Practitioners, the agreement is not only unlawful because it holds back the transformation and does not allow progress of black pilots as designated in the Employment Equity Act,” the department said.
It said this agreement will not carry on in future, adding that the attack by this group of pilots is short-sighted and self-destructive.

“By providing this kind unwarranted attack on SAA Cargo, this minority pilot group is holding SAA to hostage and attempting to destroy the very employer who could provide them with the continuation of their professional practise in years to come,” the DPE said.

Entrance qualifications to speak as the spokesperson for the Department of Public Enterprises appear to have hit an all-time low.

 

[r00igev@@r]

Greedy says the person driving a Merc G wagon instead of a Toyota Corrolla.

 

[Rainer wodrich]

I wish the Government has the same attitude towards Eskom workers who are massively over-staffing the Utility and holding the entire country to ransome. I see them blackmailing the Government constantly, threatening strikes and industrial actions.

 

[R13...]

I wish the Government has the same attitude towards Eskom workers who are massively over-staffing the Utility and holding the entire country to ransome. I see them blackmailing the Government constantly, threatening strikes and industrial actions.

It is interesting you say that of Eskom but their salary is only about 17% of revenue. I've seen private companies run at salaries bills of 40%+.

 

[Ginad28]

Ummm, it's your corrupt and greedy department that got them in this state in the first place.

Indeed it is. Why oh why are they hanging on to this white elephant? Was this passenger aircraft altered from passenger to cargo and why was it necessary to have a full component of cabin crew? The DPE will come with all sorts of lies and excuses.

 

[Ginad28]

I wish the Government has the same attitude towards Eskom workers who are massively over-staffing the Utility and holding the entire country to ransome. I see them blackmailing the Government constantly, threatening strikes and industrial actions.

 

[Ginad28]

The pilots are not greedy, they earn salaries determined and agreed by SAA.
I reckon I would also want to be paid what is long overdue to me..

 

[Ginad28]

So they are costing us R2 billion a year, but they complain about a plane flight that cost R5 million to fetch a vaccine to save a lot of lives.

I say lets boycot SAA even when they come back. Let them go bankrupt and they can go fly somewhere else.

I want to encourage the Drive Locally and enjoy the countryside vs flying and pay for overpaid salaries and benefits while costing the taxpayer billions campaign

And what about the R4 million given in Finance Minister’s budget. No mention made of that. Waste of taxpayers money it fly that huge passenger aircraft with a full complement of staff

 

[The Light Green Hornet]

The pilots sararies should be in line with international salaries. These individuals fly planes that cost billions to replace. They have the lives of the passengers on their hands. It'd not a taxi, it's a sophisticated piece of equipment. They generate the income that all the ground crew and administrators get paid with, but if you are greedy and racist and have no clue of running the business, then I suppose it will make sense that you blame them and their high salaries. They should have looked for alternate employment a long time ago. Never argue with an idiot.

 

[Barbarian Conan]

It said the Brussels flight is proof that a restructured and well-managed airline operated in a professional and sustainable manner can support key economic sectors.

The bar for proof is set pretty damn low if you ask me.

 

[Barbarian Conan]

The pilots sararies should be in line with international salaries. These individuals fly planes that cost billions to replace. They have the lives of the passengers on their hands. It'd not a taxi, it's a sophisticated piece of equipment. They generate the income that all the ground crew and administrators get paid with, but if you are greedy and racist and have no clue of running the business, then I suppose it will make sense that you blame them and their high salaries. They should have looked for alternate employment a long time ago. Never argue with an idiot.

When should an employee be paid an international level salary and when should an employee be paid a local level salary?

 

[Corelli]

When the company does well enough to compete on the levels of other peers. SAA however doesnt compete. They have been going from bailout to bailout. But in South Africa rather than fix a problem everyone believe's youre entitled.

I had an argument with someone who said he worked 30 years for his SASSA pension, but well SASSA is a wellfare grant and not a pension. A pension is what most of us save every month for retirement. Some doesnt and now almost 56% of our budget get effectively assigned for wellfare (yes part of education budgets etc as well).

Then we get the road accident fund. If we force every car owner to have insurance (as they do in other countries) we would have no need for the road accident fund. And by 2024 it's liabilities will exceed R500 billion (they only have assets of R7.7 billion). Oh no fault too. So cause an accident and they will cover you too.

The tax payers are being milked dry in this country. More and more will move to wellfare and more and more will taxes have to be raised.

So we will object to pilots whose airline is bankrupt from being given 5* hotel accomodation and free flights for family. Yes they are riding the gravy train, but as a tax payer I refuse to accept this while my money is being drained, as is pretty much everyone else's on the forum. It's time to stand up and say. If you deserve it you will be paid accordingly, but now your request is as entitlement and we would rather see the airline close.

 

[Corelli]

The pilots sararies should be in line with international salaries. These individuals fly planes that cost billions to replace. They have the lives of the passengers on their hands. It'd not a taxi, it's a sophisticated piece of equipment. They generate the income that all the ground crew and administrators get paid with, but if you are greedy and racist and have no clue of running the business, then I suppose it will make sense that you blame them and their high salaries. They should have looked for alternate employment a long time ago. Never argue with an idiot.

Its badly managed. It had both while and black managers etc before. They all bankrupted it. Heck we forget that the SAA during apartheid years tried to smuggle nuclear fuel on it and killed people due to this. So honestly worst run airline (other than the person thats giving us appletizer onboard - great idea).

Best would be to close the airline. Everyone is part of the problem, the pilots, the ground crew, etc. The only team worth saving are the mechanics. See if the other pilots can find jobs elsewhere... I doubt they could because if they were on international standard level, they would have found jobs elsewhere already.

 

[Corelli]

A taxi is better run than this airline, and way more profitable.

 

[Jodes]

We won't be blackmailed by "greedy" SAA pilots – Government​

Mmm, is that not the 'pot calling the kettle black' ?

 

[Hemi300c]

And very gender discrimination there are female pilots

 

[The Light Green Hornet]

When should an employee be paid an international level salary and when should an employee be paid a local level salary?

It's about professionalism and aviation safety. If they fly international routes and are competing with other international airlines their salaries must be competitive. I for one will not fly at 34000 feet on a badly maintained aircraft manned by a rookie crew.

 

[Hoffie Hoffmann]

Maybe because they are predominantly not african