webpage design-stick your tricks and tips here

skuzzy

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calling all webpage designers>>>>>>>stick your tricks and tips here for all to see.......


ThAnKs

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Use Dreamweaver :)

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LethalChicken

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No FLASH on home page ... or even better .. no flash ever .. unless it's a porn or game site ...
Minimize image size and use pre-measured image placeholders...
if you do use dreamweaver .. CLEAN UP your code before you post it ...
SPELL CHECK !!!
never use a black background unless it's a porn or a gaming website ...
design for 800x600 ... even though most people use 1024x768
decide if you want to use IE only or Netscape too .. if both then u going to have to do some creative JS coding ...
plan your realestate well ... beforehand ...

that's it for now ... more thumb-sucking to come later ...

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mbs

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Only one - stick strictly to W3C standards... see http://www.w3.org/
 

LethalChicken

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mbs: That's assuming that Microsoft IE sticks to w3c standards [;)]

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Andre

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IE IS the standard, hehe. Ditto on the no flash. At least SP2 makes it easier to enable or disable flash on the fly.

As for a black background that can be okay so long as you use a high contrast text font. Blue text on a black background ends up being almost invisible.

No flashing text, no scrolling nonsense in the page or in the status bar. Use a new browser window only when you are linking to an external web site.

Avoid the use of scripting, some people surf with it turned off. ActiveX and Java are an even bigger nuisance.

Don't try resize the browser window or make it go fullscreen and don't try disable rick-click.

Pages should load quickly or people will get bored waiting and go elsewhere. Keeping the layout simple makes it easier to code and easier for people to find their way around your site.
 

mbs

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by BlobNow</i>
<br />mbs: That's assuming that Microsoft IE sticks to w3c standards [;)]
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Ja well no fine - the stoopid dwangs think they're a power unto themselves and can dictate standards ignoring the growing groundswell of opinion about the cr@ppiness of their offerings, much like Telkrap... [:(!]
Bottom line is if you stick to w3c, it's the browser that's the problem, not the website, then you can comfortably tell users to switch to Firefox... [:)]
 

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The browser is the problem but it's the browser used by 90% of computers users out there. Unfortunately it's browsers like Netscape that have created this position for Microsoft. If you developed websites a few years ago (as I did) then you will know the horror that is Netscape.

The first site I developed I tested mostly under IE and it looked fine. I was near completion and decided to install Netscape to see if it worked ok and got the shock of my life. It looked horrible and even though the HTML was 100% legit (as it was hand coded) Netscape failed to render it correctly. After much research and hair pulling I realised I wasn't alone, other web developers also hated Netscape with a passion. Like them I ended up having to code to check the browser version and render different sets of HTML accordingly.

Even though both IE and Netscape were not standards compliant, IE was the lesser of two evils and so it won the "browser wars".
Firefox may be great and standards compliant but most companies are not really willing to roll out Firefox to all workstations when IE is the preferred browser for most websites. The picture will probably change over time but at the moment if you're a web developer I suggest you make your site look 100% on IE first and then worry about the rest if you have the time.
 

mbs

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Hehe, PERDITION, you took the bait! [:D] Let the browser wars stay where they belong, viz. with users - from a developer point of view, it really should be irrelevant, if you stick to w3c standards. I suppose if one really needs to make customers happy, though, it would be in one's own interests to test using whatever they use, otherwise there would be no revenues/reward for the effort put into the product. Personally, I've always advised a switchover to Firefox, which most have been more than happy to do, when they hear that it's free. Admittedly, in most cases it's really been a side issue for me - I don't develop for external publication, only internal. Ah well, I suppose in the long run product differentiation will eventually be based on real quality and price, as it should be, as opposed to usurping of standards and power-plays - roll on Utopia!
 

martin

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My tip: Keep it as simple as possible. I could give a list of reasons and benefits but I'm feeling lazy right now.

As to the browser debate, it much easier to make pages look the same today than it was three years ago, so hopefully we're heading in the right direction. Biggest issue for me is still javascript.
 
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