Wed 24 August COSATO National protected Strike over Cost of living

[Mista_Mobsta]

Senior management would find themselves in trouble with the law if they do that.

Same point as @LCBXX made - if 70% of companies affiliated with workers from various Unions participate in that manner, what will the Police/Hawks/SARS do?

The companies are still paying their taxes, they just aren't paying it to the sole government revenue collector. They are paying taxes into a 3rd party trust that holds the taxation money as security whilst government works on their bargaining and listening skills.

 

[OhYeah84]

What is the "law" going to do if the whole country does this?

It will be a test of the law, that's for sure. But the whole country won't do it. Not many see the benefits coming out of this, or what it will do for them.
The rest of us simply have jobs to do and we get on with it.

 

[ForceFate]

For sure...but this isn't a protected strike. I've read nothing that says they've been issued with a writ that allows it. So it's "no work, no pay" OR "You strike and we discipline you".
People make choices and they then have to deal with the consequences. If the unions coerced people into doing this and didn't explain the consequences, then they are to blame.

Briefing the media at Cosatu House in Braamfontein on Thursday, the federation’s president Zingiswa Losi said the protected national strike was meant to put pressure on both the government and the private sector to correct and resolve the socioeconomic challenges that continue to stifle South African households.

Cosatu to embark on national strike as SA's economy struggles to create jobs

Cosatu has called on people to stayaway from work or take to the streets in various rally's across the on Wednesday, 24 August.

ewn.co.za

 

[AlphaJohn]

Meaning they were planning to intimidate others? I'm guessing many use the day to run errands and drink.

Hell we even had a strike just this year where they came shaking our gates telling management they will "cause problems" if we continue working.

No intimidation my rear.

 

[OhYeah84]

Cosatu to embark on national strike as SA's economy struggles to create jobs

Cosatu has called on people to stayaway from work or take to the streets in various rally's across the on Wednesday, 24 August.

ewn.co.za

Er, I have read company statements stating that while a strike is legal (if protected) in terms of the LRA, if employees took part they'd be disciplined.
That, to me, makes it seem it isn't really protected or large corporations couldn't care less.

 

[ForceFate]

Hell we even had a strike just this year where they came shaking our gates telling management they will "cause problems" if we continue working.

No intimidation my rear.

We are talking about a national strike like the one in progress, aren't we? Wage negotiations and other internal crap are different kettle of fish as they say.

 

[ForceFate]

Er, I have read company statements stating that while a strike is legal (if protected) in terms of the LRA, if employees took part they'd be disciplined.
That, to me, makes it seem it isn't really protected or large corporations couldn't care less.

If it's legal, it's protected afaik. An illegal strike is the one that isn't protected. Maybe someone with deeper knowledge of LRA will come along. Management sometimes does stupid things.

 

[TheChamp]

Er, I have read company statements stating that while a strike is legal (if protected) in terms of the LRA, if employees took part they'd be disciplined.
That, to me, makes it seem it isn't really protected or large corporations couldn't care less.

Disciplined could simply mean no work no pay, I am sure it helps to use intimidating language when sending out such communications if your wish is to discourage attendance.

 

[mojoman]

Hell we even had a strike just this year where they came shaking our gates telling management they will "cause problems" if we continue working.

No intimidation my rear.

Pity we cant shake a pump action at them..

 

[surface]

COSATU handed out preprinted ones so their slogans are pretty generic. SAFTUs one are more interesting

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This is how I picture lexity and his independent WC gang.

 

[mojoman]

Any news on the veteran operator Carl Niehaus?

 

[surface]

Nothing wrong with members persuading each other during lunch to find common ground.

People are uber sensitive. Just because I ask you 'How is your house at 17, church street boet' doesn't mean I am gonna come and burn it to ground.

 

[N@t3]

hahahahah still vote for them and then complain fokken chops.

 

[ToxicBunny]

If it's legal, it's protected afaik. An illegal strike is the one that isn't protected. Maybe someone with deeper knowledge of LRA will come along. Management sometimes does stupid things.

I've seen mention of it being "legal"/"protected", but I surely there is a process that has to be undertaken to make a strike legal, and its usually at a Union/BC level.. you can't just blanket an entire country and claim its legal.

 

[GrootVoet]

Not sure about the rest of the country but no huge crowds in Cape Town.

The trade unions ability to mobilize crowds / workers today is nothing compared to that of the 1990's.

 

[TheChamp]

I've seen mention of it being "legal"/"protected", but I surely there is a process that has to be undertaken to make a strike legal, and its usually at a Union/BC level.. you can't just blanket an entire country and claim its legal.

Yes, not the whole country but Cosatu can blanket all unions under it. Just got a friendly email from my employer reminding me that as much as I have a right to take part in the protected strike they also have a right to withhold my wages for the day.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Yes, not the whole country but Cosatu can blanket all unions under it. Just got a friendly email from my employer reminding me that as much as I have a right to take part in the protected strike they also have a right to withhold my wages for the day.

Interesting, I honestly though there was a process of negotiation/mediation that needed to take place before a strike could be declared.... Learn something new every day I suppose.

 

[TheChamp]

Not sure about the rest of the country but no huge crowds in Cape Town.

The trade unions ability to mobilize crowds / workers today is nothing compared to that of the 1990's.

They can still mobilise, it helps a lot if members can also buy into the reasons, I am afraid the reasons put forward were very swaak in this case, they should have read the room better.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Seems to be escalating in some parts of Durban this evening.. Hearing reports that umgeni/alpine area is a no go zone atm.