We're 'under siege' and need protection - sex workers as man accused of killing 6 women appears in court

[Defonotaltaccount]

And Haiti has been self governing as an independent republic since 1859. No blaming of the honky for their situation.

Only took a little bit of massacre and viola, mudcakes for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

[Icemanbrfc]

How much do they pay for protection?

 

[3WA]

I thought protection with a prossie is a given...

Bare back is available, but it costs extra.

 

[G'Wobblez]

Has Sex work been decimalized?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Has Sex work been decimalized?

In Germany and the Netherlands, yes.

In South Africa it's not illegal to be a prostitute. It's illegal to live off the proceeds of prostitution.

 

[3WA]

Has Sex work been decimalized?

Not sure. All the hookers I know charge by the minute rather than the kilosecond.

 

[Geoff.D]

the state is barely able to keep up with HIV and now you want to legitimise the activity that would turbocharge the spread of HIV?

You don't know that and this claim of yours is as far-fetched as the rubbish I assume CD posted.

 

[Geoff.D]

It would just make things worse for the woman who participate in it.

And no. At the moment the women are left without ANY protection whatsoever. So, it is a fallacy to say that the women will be worse off.

 

[konfab]

You don't know that and this claim of yours is as far-fetched as the rubbish I assume CD posted.

My brother in Christ...

South Africa remains the epicenter of the HIV pandemic as the largest AIDS epidemic in the world—20 percent of all people living with HIV are in South Africa, and 20 percent of new HIV infections occur there too. The country also faces a high burden of tuberculosis (TB), including multi-drug resistant TB, which amplifies its HIV epidemic. Of particular concern are South Africa’s hyper-epidemics, many in KwaZulu-Natal and Mpumalanga provinces, and the concentration in specific populations like AGYW. Of the estimated 7.2 million South Africans living with HIV, nearly 60 percent are women over the age of 15. HIV prevalence in other key populations—female sex workers, men who have sex with men, transgender women, and people who inject drugs—remains unacceptably high, in some cases double the national prevalence rate of approximately 19 percent.

The problem facing South Africa’s HIV response is that treatment scale-up has stalled, and while new infections have gone down by 42 percent, the rate is not fast enough to bend the curve of the epidemic. New infections in young men and women remain alarmingly high (nearly 87 percent of the total) and viral suppression rates, a key to preventing those living with the virus from passing it on, are under 50 percent for those 15-24 years old. With approximately 45 percent of the population under the age of 25, the sheer numbers of those becoming infected and overall prevalence of HIV will stay alarmingly high without a massive decline in the new HIV infection rate.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/worlds-largest-hiv-epidemic-crisis-hiv-south-africa

 

[konfab]

And no. At the moment the women are left without ANY protection whatsoever. So, it is a fallacy to say that the women will be worse off.

The police cannot protect woman at the moment. More woman going into the business will make it even easier for them to be preyed on as police resources won't be matched.

 

[Baise]

Are the ladies of negotiable virtue declaring the earnings and submitting their tax returns ... if so then yes, they should be entitled to protection ..

 

[Polymathic]

 

[RiaX]

There was a reason why this industry was considered criminal activity and banned before. You decriminalize it, and you open it up to things like this. The industry will get a lot worse for those girls as more syndicates will get involved in it. A matter of be careful what you ask for, you may just get it...

Rubbish. Almost every country that has decriminalized sex work has seen an improvement.

Also can formally tax them

 

[Cosmik Debris]

You don't know that and this claim of yours is as far-fetched as the rubbish I assume CD posted.

What rubbish? Point it out?

 

[rvZA]

Rubbish. Almost every country that has decriminalized sex work has seen an improvement.

Also can formally tax them

Nice improvement we are seeing here at home too.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Nice improvement we are seeing here at home too.

You have prostitutes at home?

 

[rietrot]

And you expect Bheki Cele, you know the most competent minister of police on this planet, to have the capability of doing this? Or do you expect the healthcare system to manage this as well, you know considering it is the best run and most well-resourced public healthcare system in the world.

South Africa has an STD epidemic, the state is barely able to keep up with HIV and now you want to legitimise the activity that would turbocharge the spread of HIV?

In a different country with a functioning police force, functioning healthcare sector and a growing economy, I would easily be in favour of some limited version of sex work being legitimised, but not South Africa. It would just make things worse for the woman who participate in it.

I don't see a good argument that legitimizing it will make spread any more(actual sex work or HIV) the black market is worse for every aspect.

The people morally inclined to participate in that id of thing already do. Despite the legal status.

Just not sure what the prozies expect in this case. I support safe streets at night and visible policing, but how do you stop a serial killer from picking them up. Do they want a police escort watching them do the deed?

 

[RiaX]

Nice improvement we are seeing here at home too.

When they decriminalization prostitution in this country ? I didn't know about that

 

[Emjay]

There was a reason why this industry was considered criminal activity and banned before. You decriminalize it, and you open it up to things like this. The industry will get a lot worse for those girls as more syndicates will get involved in it. A matter of be careful what you ask for, you may just get it...

All sex work is extremely harmful to women. Thinking that making it legal makes all those issues go away is beyond naïve. Same with the porn industry.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

All sex work is extremely harmful to women. Thinking that making it legal makes all those issues go away is beyond naïve. Same with the porn industry.

It's the oldest profession in the world. It's never going away. Decriminalise it already.