Western Cape Police Captain Dismissed

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A police captain has been fired for failing to take action against a reservist accused of rape, Western Cape police said on Monday.

"This morning, the provincial commissioner of the Western Cape police... validated the findings of a disciplinary hearing to dismiss a police captain stationed at the Kwanonqaba police station from the service for not assisting a rape victim after the case was reported to him," Lt-Col Andre Traut said in a statement.

In February, a woman went to Herbertsdale satellite police station to report that a police reservist raped her. Traut said the captain dismissed the woman's claims as not serious and did not institute criminal proceedings against the alleged rapist.

"This behaviour is inexcusable and we cannot allow victims of crime, especially those perpetrated against women, to be treated in this fashion."

Traut said the captain's name could not be released as it was an internal disciplinary process.


Source : Sapa /pd/hdw/clh/th
Date : 15 Apr 2013 15:01
 

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Good, they should charge him as an accomplice

Due to the nature of their job police should be held to a higher standard than ordinary citizen, this should apply to their punishment also.
 

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Good, they should charge him as an accomplice

Due to the nature of their job police should be held to a higher standard than ordinary citizen, this should apply to their punishment also.
Disagree. They should not have an elevated status in terms of accountability nor status...
 

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Disagree. They should not have an elevated status in terms of accountability nor status...
Can you please explain the above

This is a better example of what I wanted to say

Every day, police professionals decide and act while balancing competing and conflicting values and interests, frequently with incomplete or inaccurate information, often in highly emotional and dynamic circumstances, and typically under pressure.

Police officers are held to a higher standard of behavior by society, because they are stewards of the public trust and are empowered to apply force and remove constitutional privileges when lawfully justified
. They take an oath of office, are expected to comply with professional codes of ethics, and are subject to various laws, rules, and regulations.
 

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Disagree. They should not have an elevated status in terms of accountability nor status...
So we should accept the current norm that policeman ( the protectors of the people) may commit crime, murder,rape and abuse power without seeing it in a more serious light? Is that the quality or level of police we must accept?
 

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Disagree. They should not have an elevated status in terms of accountability nor status...
I think this one has played out in the courts already.

The relationship between society and the police is one based on trust. This does elevate the status of the police.
 

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Can you please explain the above

This is a better example of what I wanted to say
So we should accept the current norm that policeman ( the protectors of the people) may commit crime, murder,rape and abuse power without seeing it in a more serious light? Is that the quality or level of police we must accept?
I mean that the two are linked. Elevate their accountability and they feel their status is now elevated too. No thank you.

It is incredibly simple - if a police officer commits a crime, he is prosecuted for the crime, just as any ordinary citizen would be. If it so happens that his profession assisted in his crimes, then that will play out as a contributive factor at sentencing. In the same way that criminal doctors' abuse of trust contributes at sentencing or even at trial.

But changing the constitution to separate law enforcement officers to some whatever degree the suggestion requires is certainly not the answer imho...
 

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I mean that the two are linked. Elevate their accountability and they feel their status is now elevated too. No thank you.

It is incredibly simple - if a police officer commits a crime, he is prosecuted for the crime, just as any ordinary citizen would be. If it so happens that his profession assisted in his crimes, then that will play out as a contributive factor at sentencing. In the same way that criminal doctors' abuse of trust contributes at sentencing or even at trial.

But changing the constitution to separate law enforcement officers to some whatever degree the suggestion requires is certainly not the answer imho...
I fail to see how elevating their accountability will make them think they have an elevated status, if anything it should act as a deterrent to any misdeeds as they will know that their sentencing will be harsher than those of a civilian sentenced for the same crime.

For this discussion we take it as a given that the persons role as a police officer played a part in the crime

Nobody has mentioned changing the constitution, we have actually been saying the same as you except we want it to be standard practice

If it so happens that his profession assisted in his crimes, then that will play out as a contributive factor at sentencing
 

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I fail to see how elevating their accountability will make them think they have an elevated status, if anything it should act as a deterrent to any misdeeds as they will know that their sentencing will be harsher than those of a civilian sentenced for the same crime.

For this discussion we take it as a given that the persons role as a police officer played a part in the crime

Nobody has mentioned changing the constitution, we have actually been saying the same as you except we want it to be standard practice
Holding someone to a different standard of law is a constitutional issue, no matter how much you disagree.
We will have to agree to disagree on the accountability/status bit.

Still not sure why they must be held to a higher degree of accountability. You haven't made any sort of compelling argument for that - you've simply stated as such. And as it is, they are held to a higher account when their profession played a role in the crime.

If the profession plays no role in the crime, why must they be held to a higher level of accountability. By extension that is saying that somehow more is expected of them than an ordinary civilian. Nonsense...
 
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