What is the best small automatic?

[unobeat]

If a car was manufactured in 2015 but registered in 2020, does this ring alarm bells?

Something diffidently fishy, why was the car registered 5 years later.

 

[airborne]

If a car was manufactured in 2015 but registered in 2020, does this ring alarm bells?

Very weird but if there's a logical explanation it may be a good deal for a nice vehicle. That does sound like it was code 3, as in significant accident then scrapped, rebuilt and then re-registered in 2020. It will say code 3 on the registration certificate.

 

[Synonym]

Thanks for the replies. Can dealerships get away with "on the road costs"? I explained to them this shouldn't be included, but I was told it's another department and all dealerships charge this.

Also, can I request a Dekra check before buying?

 

[Lupus]

Thanks for the replies. Can dealerships get away with "on the road costs"? I explained to them this shouldn't be included, but I was told it's another department and all dealerships charge this.

Also, can I request a Dekra check before buying?

They still do the on road costs and despite people saying fight it and and. They won't drop it.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

Thanks for the replies. Can dealerships get away with "on the road costs"? I explained to them this shouldn't be included, but I was told it's another department and all dealerships charge this.

Also, can I request a Dekra check before buying?

It's their hidden tax.

Unethical but it's our choice to buy from dealerships.

Unlike when I bought my car, there seems to be at least some value in getting them to do the admin now with queues at licencing departments.

For example, I just settled my car yesterday and apparently I'm going to be "requested" by Wesbank to pay a small R350 fee to handle the paperwork on my behalf. No problem as I ain't standing in queues in this wet cold Cape weather.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

Also, can I request a Dekra check before buying?

I regret not doing that and should have paid for a full check.

Would have resolved many small things that I discovered in the first year

Would still have bought the car, but I would have had small things corrected before taking ownership.

 

[unobeat]

Thanks for the replies. Can dealerships get away with "on the road costs"? I explained to them this shouldn't be included, but I was told it's another department and all dealerships charge this.

Also, can I request a Dekra check before buying?

Let the dealership take care of the registration as currently the process is a headache.

Yes, get the Dekra road test done on the car as it will give you an idea of how healthy the car is.

Also check for reviews about the car dealership as it will give an idea what kind of cars they sell.

So what car are you settling on?

 

[TheChamp]

Thanks for the replies. Can dealerships get away with "on the road costs"? I explained to them this shouldn't be included, but I was told it's another department and all dealerships charge this.

Also, can I request a Dekra check before buying?

You did it wrong by asking that they should be dropped, it just makes it sound like a demand that is not based on anything.

The proper way to go about it is to ask for a breakdown of the fees, and evaluate each item on it's merits, like asking them to drop the delivery fee because you would be collecting the car yourself. Some costs are valid like registration and fuel costs.

At the end of the day it all depends how desperate they are for the sale, they could reduce the fees if you prove that they are taking a chance.

 

[Synonym]

You did it wrong by asking that they should be dropped, it just makes it sound like a demand that is not based on anything.

The proper way to go about it is to ask for a breakdown of the fees, and evaluate each item on it's merits, like asking them to drop the delivery fee because you would be collecting the car yourself. Some costs are valid like registration and fuel costs.

At the end of the day it all depends how desperate they are for the sale, they could reduce the fees if you prove that they are taking a chance.

Thanks for the reply. License and registration is separate (1k) and I can understand. But almost 5k for delivery fees? I queried this nicely asking for a breakdown but was told it is admin costs and can not be broken down. I was also told this admin fee is common with all dealerships.

 

[TheChamp]

Thanks for the reply. License and registration is separate (1k) and I can understand. But almost 5k for delivery fees? I queried this nicely asking for a breakdown but was told it is admin costs and can not be broken down. I was also told this admin fee is common with all dealerships.

True it is common but it can be negotiated, the best way to deal with a dealership that doesn't even make an effort is to walk away.

 

[mattrudlles]

We've been really happy with our VW Polo TSI (DSG box). The Isofix works well. @Synonym we had a lot of trouble getting the right car seat though. Honestly, there is so much misinformation and incorrectly specified parameters for seats re ISOfix and rearward facing age and weight limits. Anyway, we eventually settled on the Joie Every Stage FX as we needed a seat to work with both seatbelt and Isofix. Good luck if you are still in the market for a car seat too.

 

[Ϲhristopher]

Instead of starting a new thread I'll just continue this one:

I am also looking for a reliable small auto, max budget R200k, preferably new or almost new.

So far, the list is:
1. Kia Picanto 1.0 AT Start
2. Hyundai Atos 1.1 Motion AMT
3. Suzuki Celerio 1.0 GL AMT

Are there any other options worth considering that are reliable, cheap to run/maintain/insure, have a long warranty (5+ years) etc.

 

[airborne]

Instead of starting a new thread I'll just continue this one:

I am also looking for a reliable small auto, max budget R200k, preferably new or almost new.

So far, the list is:
1. Kia Picanto 1.0 AT Start
2. Hyundai Atos 1.1 Motion AMT
3. Suzuki Celerio 1.0 GL AMT

Are there any other options worth considering that are reliable, cheap to run/maintain/insure, have a long warranty (5+ years) etc.

I'm assuming those are all turbo charged or they'll be pretty sucky with an automatic?

 

[epah]

I'm assuming those are all turbo charged or they'll be pretty sucked with an automatic?

Japanese/Korean with turbo I doubt it.

 

[Instacar]

Go for the one that has a higher safety rating or are all the same? (According to Euro NCAP)

Add a Peugeot 108 to the list, none of the small, overpriced cars comes close in terms of safety features.

I agree with this, the 108 is very good

 

[Instacar]

Depending on new or used you can do quite well with 200k. If you are looking for a new car here are some options -> https://instacar.co.za/5-new-cars-in-south-africa/ also check out the 108 Peugeot it is quite decent.

 

[Crayons]

Instead of starting a new thread I'll just continue this one:

I am also looking for a reliable small auto, max budget R200k, preferably new or almost new.

So far, the list is:
1. Kia Picanto 1.0 AT Start
2. Hyundai Atos 1.1 Motion AMT
3. Suzuki Celerio 1.0 GL AMT

Are there any other options worth considering that are reliable, cheap to run/maintain/insure, have a long warranty (5+ years) etc.

Damn, those little shxt boxes cost R200K. Look for a Toyota Startlet.

 

[TheChamp]

Damn, those little shxt boxes cost R200K. Look for a Toyota Startlet.

I also don't get the fascination with these small cars, but maybe I am old fashioned.

 

[ShaunSA]

I also don't get the fascination with these small cars, but maybe I am old fashioned.

Well you are still using a naaimasjien

 

[Ϲhristopher]

I agree with this, the 108 is very good

No automatic transmission option though.