What kinds of car mods can be applied to a car without making it look Ghetto?

[Colin62]

No

Actually yes.

A wider tyre has more contact surface.

No, it doesn't. Do the research. Look it up. With an open mind.

And how does a person get only 20k km out of a set of tekkies?

Read the post - I easily got 60 000km of a set once I changed size. Always got 60 000km of the fronts which were the narrower tyres. Wider tyres are softer compound. Again, do the research, read some articles, (by experts, not just some guy on the internet).

Any decent wides will evacuate water just as well as the narrow options. Its about tread pattern not width.

It's about both tread pattern and width. But the wider the tyre, the more work it has to do to remove the water, and the more critical the weight and tread depth. You'll be aquaplaning on a wider tyre (especially in a light car) long before you hit the legal minimum tread depth.

 

[Wasabee!]

Spend the money that's burning a hole in your pocket on buying dinner for someone you fancy. You'll get far more mileage out of that than blowing money on crap that doesn't actually do anything for your car.

I agree with this.

 

[_kabal_]

No, it doesn't. Do the research. Look it up. With an open mind.

maybe I didnt sleep enough last light, but are you saying that a kilometer wide tire has the same contact area as a meter wide tire?

 

[bandooq]

For your getz:

1. Window tints
2. Upgrade your CD player + speakers (add in a small 8 inch sub)
3. Side wind shields for when it rains
4. Sunroof (if you can afford it)
5. 14 or 15 inch mags
6. a set of fog lights if it doesn't already have them

 

[Colin62]

maybe I didnt sleep enough last light, but are you saying that a kilometer wide tire has the same contact area as a meter wide tire?

No. I'm saying that at the loads, pressures and sizes used commercially, that a 225 tyre has the same contact area as a 195 (within a couple of percent).

Here's the first one google threw up. http://www.performancesimulations.c...etermined-mostly-by-weight-and-tire-pressure/

 

[_kabal_]

No. I'm saying that at the loads, pressures and sizes used commercially, that a 225 tyre has the same contact area as a 195 (within a couple of percent).

Here's the first one google threw up. http://www.performancesimulations.c...etermined-mostly-by-weight-and-tire-pressure/

interesting. it makes sense that a 3cm wider tire would be within a couple of percent of each other.

however, there is no way that a 335 tire, eg on an aventador, has the same contact area as a 195 tire.

I also think that using % difference is misleading. a small % could affect friction/grip drastically.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Doesn't matter what you do, as long as it's not gold, chrome or a big rear wing.

IOW, be appropriate depending on the cards existing styling. European cars for example are better suited to subtle styling changes, whereas Japanese cars are more about the angles and therefore you can be a bit more expressive...

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

For your getz:

1. Window tints
2. Upgrade your CD player + speakers (add in a small 8 inch sub)
3. Side wind shields for when it rains
4. Sunroof (if you can afford it)
5. 14 or 15 inch mags
6. a set of fog lights if it doesn't already have them

Sunroof should come directly from the factory. Never fit an aftermarket one...

 

[SykomantiS]

Actually yes.




No, it doesn't. Do the research. Look it up. With an open mind.




Read the post - I easily got 60 000km of a set once I changed size. Always got 60 000km of the fronts which were the narrower tyres. Wider tyres are softer compound. Again, do the research, read some articles, (by experts, not just some guy on the internet).



It's about both tread pattern and width. But the wider the tyre, the more work it has to do to remove the water, and the more critical the weight and tread depth. You'll be aquaplaning on a wider tyre (especially in a light car) long before you hit the legal minimum tread depth.

From your own link :

It is apparent that increasing the contact patch width indeed increases contact patch area. The “freak 28 psi” front tire data indicates that something very interesting in the tire construction is at play too, and is obviously very significant.

When lowering the narrow tire’s air pressure from 24 psi to 22 psi, the contact patch size grows 4%, not 9%. And don’t forget about our constrained sidewalls! In reality the patch will grow even less than this. What else is interesting is that at this load, the wide tire’s contact area increases by the same percentage as the narrower one does as pressure is reduced from 24 psi through 18 psi. I suspect that the constrained sidewall assumption skews the data in a way that means that the real wide tire grows its contact patch more rapidly than the narrow one. How much so is not known.

Contact patch pressure is constant and equal to air pressure? No, not even close.

Wide tires have a greater contact area? From this data it appears very likely. Which would mean the “wide tires are softer and therefore give more grip” argument is bunk. The contact patch is bigger, and the contact patch pressure is lower. Avon has several sets of tire data available. Feel free to do your own analysis on any of the other tires. It appears likely from looking at this data is that if lateral sidewall deflection were included, the contact patch size might change by a rather small amount when the load is doubled in a typical operating range. The contact patch certainly does NOT get twice as long and the contact patch size certainly doesn’t double. The above tables show the absolute limit to how much the length and areas could increase. In reality the changes must be even less.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say, but it seems to me you are contradicting yourself.

 

[UsernameLadiesMan217]

For your getz:

1. Window tints
2. Upgrade your CD player + speakers (add in a small 8 inch sub)
3. Side wind shields for when it rains
4. Sunroof (if you can afford it)
5. 14 or 15 inch mags
6. a set of fog lights if it doesn't already have them

Not going for sunroof though cause then I might as well have added all the cash up and bought into another price bracket
Sounds decent, why an 8 inch sub? (do i need an equalizer?)

 

[UsernameLadiesMan217]

Dude, wanna buy my picanto?
Its comes pre pimped,
(stupidly) loud exhuast with giant hole to poke through the rear bumper,
(badly)dropped suspension,
(garbadge) cone filter,
(stupid) tinted windows,
( messy) wiring for subwoofer...... and a porn mag collection under the centre console.......

Seriously dude, its a getz, not a citi golf, just like my picanto wasting your time modding this car, its not really a car with much aftermarket potential, anything you do to it will make it ghetto, and rubbish.....
( next time ask dad for a citi golf)

Small simple mods not a bad idea, changing the interior globes to LED's add value and can see better, nice gps system/headunit replacement useful to have, nice set of rims(if you must) tinting/smash and grab useful to have.....

Learn from others peoples mistakes, the picanto i got had all the above, and slowly but surely im removing all the mods, and returning the car to as much stock as possible so when i sell it i get most of the cash back...

Remember the true cost of a car is what you get back from it, ie if it cost 60k you want to loose as little as possible when you sell it,
Thats the true cost of a car, including any repairs/mods.
Its a getz, anything you do gonna lower its value, i should know the picanto is almost the same thing just smaller.....

If you really into this modding buisness, sell the getz and get a car that got a big aftermarket market, golfs, bm's corsas, tazz, things made in sa and take well to pimping.....

Our korean cars not really built for this, their imported, parts expensive, and not much use in pimping out a repmobile.....

If it was this model I would love to
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201103/2012-kia-picanto_600x0w.jpg

 

[Colin62]

From your own link :


I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say, but it seems to me you are contradicting yourself.

I must confess to looking at the data on the link and not reading all the blurb - it was merely the first link I found when I googled it.

So, looking at the data in his tables, for 28psi (around 2 bar, which is pretty much standard tyre pressure) and at loads of between 200 and 250kg per wheel, the differences in contact area are less than 2% with a difference in width of 28%.

If you look at a wider range of loads, between 150kg and 325kg, you still only get a maximum of 4.44% difference in patch size, again with a 28% difference in width. Additionally, at loads below 200 kg, the contact patch is actually bigger for the front (narrower) tyre.

I've ignored the other load ranges and tyre pressures, because those are not relevant to the discussion - that of a normally loaded tyre at normal pressure on a normal road car. And yes, the loads are on the lower end, because those tyres are F3000 tyres, and F3000 cars come in at about 660kg, quite a bit less than most road going cars.

 

[bandooq]

Not going for sunroof though cause then I might as well have added all the cash up and bought into another price bracket
Sounds decent, why an 8 inch sub? (do i need an equalizer?)

Well an 8 inch is pretty small and won't take up much space in the boot, and it will make a reasonable difference in terms of your sound system, if that's the route you going. No need for an equalizer as the head-units already have a couple to choose from.

 

[UsernameLadiesMan217]

My current frontloader does not allow for USB MP3, this needs to be fixed.

Any recommendations for a new deck?

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

If it was this model I would love to
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201103/2012-kia-picanto_600x0w.jpg

Sorry, old round light model....

 

[boxerulez]

My current frontloader does not allow for USB MP3, this needs to be fixed.

Any recommendations for a new deck?

JVC cheap quality deck. probably around 800smackaroos you will het usb and front as well as rear aux input with 4ch out for amps.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

JVC cheap quality deck. probably around 800smackaroos you will het usb and front as well as rear aux input with 4ch out for amps.

Got something similar to the above, lg though with changing faceplate lighting......
Cost me R800 and what nice is its portable, so when you get a nicer car, take it with...

Good solid investment imo

 

[boxerulez]

Got something similar to the above, lg though with changing faceplate lighting......
Cost me R800 and what nice is its portable, so when you get a nicer car, take it with...

Good solid investment imo

my jvc also changes colours. had to get this to match the dial lighting in the e30.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

my jvc also changes colours. had to get this to match the dial lighting in the e30.

One question though i have, since yours is similar to mine,

Can yours play tracks of an external hard drive? I realise the usb might not be enough, but what if you use a external power? What about then?

Mine never works that way and im forever trying to update its firmware/hack it

Always wanted to know what os it uses internally......

 

[boxerulez]

One question though i have, since yours is similar to mine,

Can yours play tracks of an external hard drive? I realise the usb might not be enough, but what if you use a external power? What about then?

Mine never works that way and im forever trying to update its firmware/hack it

Always wanted to know what os it uses internally......

it cannot read ntfs only fat...

cannot read my 20gb clickwheel ipod either nor in mass storage mode.

Cannot access my android when set to media device...

it does however support new ipods fully. play tracks on ipod from deck... id tag them on screen...

No bluetooth sadly.