What ONT options - because Calix routers are garbage

[Sinbad]

Yep. Clean ethernet (no PPP, tunnels, etc. involved). So there's your confirmation that you are on ActiveEthernet. Your provisioning is indeed either via DHCP or Statically done as there's no encapsulation involved with your traffic. Viva Vumatel for doing things CORRECTLY.

Yup. I was so glad when we managed to convince the suburb to vote vuma over fibrehoods.

 

[itareanlnotani]

When my provider wouldn't provide the info, I just hacked the 'modem/ONT' firmware to dump what I needed.

Most of the hardware I've seen usually has serial onboard, so soldering some headers, and connecting to an rs232 adaptor gets you a boot log, and some sort of access if you're lucky.

Most ONT's can be configured simply on a network with the relevant LOID (at least from what I've seen here in Asia).
Haven't seen any SA fibre in the wild yet, as its still unobtanium at any of my flats or houses.

Would be interested to know how they're provisioning in SA, so MagicDude4Eva needs to do some work I think

 

[MagicDude4Eva]

Would be interested to know how they're provisioning in SA, so MagicDude4Eva needs to do some work I think

If you followed my blog and my virgin-excursions into crimping, keystone plugs, punchdown tools and how to wire a 240V fan into a cabinet you would appreciate it that my engineering skills are just one level above screwing in a lightbulb. The last time I soldered something is a distant memory.

I have not yet come across anyone in my professional circle who has a solid understanding of the inner workings of the SA fibre provisioning (or perhaps they pretend not to know). The closest I can probably contribute to "lsheed_cn's SA fibre provisioning research paper" is to run a few pings, traceroutes and will stretch it as far as configuring a PPPoE session on my Unifi when the layer2 Calix 803G switch arrives (I might even go all out and type in a VLAN number or clone a MAC-address).

 

[Sinbad]

(I might even go all out and type in a VLAN number or clone a MAC-address).

/reports hax0r.

 

[MagicDude4Eva]

Seeing that I have managed to round up some clever people here, could you guys perhaps run an iperf3 from on your fibre-connection. The results on my 50mbps connection makes no sense (the line should be idle, unless the cats are surfing the web at home):

admin@Gatekeeper:~$ [B]iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com[/B]
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201                
[  4] local 10.0.0.2 port 39938 connected to 45.33.39.39 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr        
[  4]   0.00-1.47   sec   128 KBytes   714 Kbits/sec    1         
[  4]   1.47-2.09   sec   256 KBytes  3.37 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   2.09-3.24   sec   768 KBytes  5.48 Mbits/sec    2         
[  4]   3.24-4.49   sec   896 KBytes  5.86 Mbits/sec    3         
[  4]   4.49-5.29   sec   512 KBytes  5.23 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   5.29-6.19   sec   256 KBytes  2.33 Mbits/sec    1         
[  4]   6.19-7.69   sec   384 KBytes  2.10 Mbits/sec    2         
[  4]   7.69-8.29   sec   128 KBytes  1.75 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   8.29-9.19   sec   128 KBytes  1.17 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   9.19-10.59  sec   256 KBytes  1.50 Mbits/sec    0         
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr        
[  4]   0.00-10.59  sec  3.62 MBytes  2.87 Mbits/sec    9         sender
[  4]   0.00-10.59  sec  2.95 MBytes  2.34 Mbits/sec              receiver
            
iperf Done.

and:

admin@Gatekeeper:~$ [B]iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com -R[/B]
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201                
Reverse mode, remote host iperf.scottlinux.com is sending         
[  4] local 10.0.0.2 port 39942 connected to 45.33.39.39 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth                   
[  4]   0.00-1.47   sec   384 KBytes  2.14 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   1.47-2.06   sec   384 KBytes  5.29 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   2.06-3.22   sec  1.88 MBytes  13.6 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   3.22-4.10   sec  2.88 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   4.10-5.01   sec  3.25 MBytes  29.9 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   5.01-6.14   sec  3.25 MBytes  24.2 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   6.14-7.04   sec  2.88 MBytes  26.7 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   7.04-8.02   sec  3.12 MBytes  26.9 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   8.02-9.09   sec  3.50 MBytes  27.3 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   9.09-10.05  sec  3.00 MBytes  26.3 Mbits/sec              
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr        
[  4]   0.00-10.05  sec  28.3 MBytes  23.6 Mbits/sec  160         sender
[  4]   0.00-10.05  sec  25.5 MBytes  21.3 Mbits/sec              receiver
            
iperf Done.

and a traceroute would be nice:

admin@Gatekeeper:~$ traceroute 45.33.39.39                        
traceroute to 45.33.39.39 (45.33.39.39), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets   
 1  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  0.633 ms  0.457 ms  0.407 ms             
 2  100.64.96.1 (100.64.96.1)  1.641 ms  1.249 ms  1.610 ms       
 3  196.192.186.73 (196.192.186.73)  3.110 ms  2.774 ms  2.905 ms 
 4  he.ixp.joburg (196.46.25.42)  12.433 ms  2.642 ms  12.030 ms  
 5  10ge3-11.core1.lon2.he.net (184.105.81.253)  209.828 ms  167.863 ms  182.949 ms
 6  100ge1-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  232.234 ms  229.330 ms  240.167 ms  
 7  100ge14-2.core1.sjc2.he.net (184.105.81.213)  299.207 ms  298.393 ms  299.074 ms                                    
 8  10ge3-2.core3.fmt2.he.net (184.105.222.13)  293.430 ms  294.104 ms  302.911 ms 
 9  172.18.0.18 (172.18.0.18)  292.804 ms  172.18.0.38 (172.18.0.38)  293.961 ms  293.960 ms                            
10  173.230.159.7 (173.230.159.7)  294.566 ms  293.337 ms  173.230.159.5 (173.230.159.5)  293.985 ms

 

[Sinbad]

Will fire those off for you tonight.

I'd say those numbers indicate packet loss at layer 2

 

[MagicDude4Eva]

Will fire those off for you tonight.

I'd say those numbers indicate packet loss at layer 2

Thanks. I will need to get SmokePing going again to determine if this is really an issue and do some trending. Running the same test on our office fibre (via Internet Solutions) produces higher results (bearing in mind that our office fibre is 20Mbits and more than 50 people are working at the moment):

Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201
[  6] local 172.16.0.124 port 56792 connected to 45.33.39.39 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  6]   0.00-1.00   sec   141 KBytes  1.16 Mbits/sec
[  6]   1.00-2.00   sec  67.9 KBytes   556 Kbits/sec
[  6]   2.00-3.00   sec   325 KBytes  2.66 Mbits/sec
[  6]   3.00-4.00   sec   505 KBytes  4.15 Mbits/sec
[  6]   4.00-5.00   sec   802 KBytes  6.57 Mbits/sec
[  6]   5.00-6.00   sec   792 KBytes  6.47 Mbits/sec
[  6]   6.00-7.00   sec   800 KBytes  6.57 Mbits/sec
[  6]   7.00-8.00   sec   803 KBytes  6.58 Mbits/sec
[  6]   8.00-9.00   sec   809 KBytes  6.63 Mbits/sec
[  6]   9.00-10.00  sec   806 KBytes  6.60 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  6]   0.00-10.00  sec  5.71 MBytes  4.79 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  6]   0.00-10.00  sec  5.65 MBytes  4.74 Mbits/sec                  receiver

Since my Unifi is still connected to that f$&%&## Calix 813G layer3 piece-of-&!&@! it could also very well be that despite the Unifi being in the DMZ, that the Calix does some other stuff on top of it (some QoS etc). Strangely, running a speed-test gives me close to 50Mbits.

 

[Sinbad]

Thanks. I will need to get SmokePing going again to determine if this is really an issue and do some trending. Running the same test on our office fibre (via Internet Solutions) produces higher results (bearing in mind that our office fibre is 20Mbits and more than 50 people are working at the moment):

Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201
[  6] local 172.16.0.124 port 56792 connected to 45.33.39.39 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  6]   0.00-1.00   sec   141 KBytes  1.16 Mbits/sec
[  6]   1.00-2.00   sec  67.9 KBytes   556 Kbits/sec
[  6]   2.00-3.00   sec   325 KBytes  2.66 Mbits/sec
[  6]   3.00-4.00   sec   505 KBytes  4.15 Mbits/sec
[  6]   4.00-5.00   sec   802 KBytes  6.57 Mbits/sec
[  6]   5.00-6.00   sec   792 KBytes  6.47 Mbits/sec
[  6]   6.00-7.00   sec   800 KBytes  6.57 Mbits/sec
[  6]   7.00-8.00   sec   803 KBytes  6.58 Mbits/sec
[  6]   8.00-9.00   sec   809 KBytes  6.63 Mbits/sec
[  6]   9.00-10.00  sec   806 KBytes  6.60 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
[  6]   0.00-10.00  sec  5.71 MBytes  4.79 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  6]   0.00-10.00  sec  5.65 MBytes  4.74 Mbits/sec                  receiver

Since my Unifi is still connected to that f$&%&## Calix 813G layer3 piece-of-&!&@! it could also very well be that despite the Unifi being in the DMZ, that the Calix does some other stuff on top of it (some QoS etc). Strangely, running a speed-test gives me close to 50Mbits.

Speedtest does 4 simultaneous HTTP transfers. iperf does how many, I'm guessing 1? And on a non-standard port (so it might be shaped?)

 

[MagicDude4Eva]

Speedtest does 4 simultaneous HTTP transfers. iperf does how many, I'm guessing 1? And on a non-standard port (so it might be shaped?)

iperf3 does 1 (unless you use the -C switch to specify more). I have logged at ticket with MFN to get some feedback as well. The account is not supposed to be shaped at all.

 

[Sinbad]

Single threading is always going to be a challenge on high latency connections. TCP window scaling, bandwidth-delay product and all of that come in.

 

[MagicDude4Eva]

FWIW - I found this tool which I can run on my Gateway (requires Java) - http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/cli.html. It then produces a report on Berkley's website which gives you a break-down of any issues in your network.

 

[Sinbad]

Seeing that I have managed to round up some clever people here, could you guys perhaps run an iperf3 from on your fibre-connection. The results on my 50mbps connection makes no sense (the line should be idle, unless the cats are surfing the web at home):

admin@Gatekeeper:~$ [B]iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com[/B]
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201                
[  4] local 10.0.0.2 port 39938 connected to 45.33.39.39 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr        
[  4]   0.00-1.47   sec   128 KBytes   714 Kbits/sec    1         
[  4]   1.47-2.09   sec   256 KBytes  3.37 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   2.09-3.24   sec   768 KBytes  5.48 Mbits/sec    2         
[  4]   3.24-4.49   sec   896 KBytes  5.86 Mbits/sec    3         
[  4]   4.49-5.29   sec   512 KBytes  5.23 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   5.29-6.19   sec   256 KBytes  2.33 Mbits/sec    1         
[  4]   6.19-7.69   sec   384 KBytes  2.10 Mbits/sec    2         
[  4]   7.69-8.29   sec   128 KBytes  1.75 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   8.29-9.19   sec   128 KBytes  1.17 Mbits/sec    0         
[  4]   9.19-10.59  sec   256 KBytes  1.50 Mbits/sec    0         
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr        
[  4]   0.00-10.59  sec  3.62 MBytes  2.87 Mbits/sec    9         sender
[  4]   0.00-10.59  sec  2.95 MBytes  2.34 Mbits/sec              receiver
            
iperf Done.

and:

admin@Gatekeeper:~$ [B]iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com -R[/B]
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201                
Reverse mode, remote host iperf.scottlinux.com is sending         
[  4] local 10.0.0.2 port 39942 connected to 45.33.39.39 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth                   
[  4]   0.00-1.47   sec   384 KBytes  2.14 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   1.47-2.06   sec   384 KBytes  5.29 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   2.06-3.22   sec  1.88 MBytes  13.6 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   3.22-4.10   sec  2.88 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   4.10-5.01   sec  3.25 MBytes  29.9 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   5.01-6.14   sec  3.25 MBytes  24.2 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   6.14-7.04   sec  2.88 MBytes  26.7 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   7.04-8.02   sec  3.12 MBytes  26.9 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   8.02-9.09   sec  3.50 MBytes  27.3 Mbits/sec              
[  4]   9.09-10.05  sec  3.00 MBytes  26.3 Mbits/sec              
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr        
[  4]   0.00-10.05  sec  28.3 MBytes  23.6 Mbits/sec  160         sender
[  4]   0.00-10.05  sec  25.5 MBytes  21.3 Mbits/sec              receiver
            
iperf Done.

and a traceroute would be nice:

admin@Gatekeeper:~$ traceroute 45.33.39.39                        
traceroute to 45.33.39.39 (45.33.39.39), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets   
 1  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  0.633 ms  0.457 ms  0.407 ms             
 2  100.64.96.1 (100.64.96.1)  1.641 ms  1.249 ms  1.610 ms       
 3  196.192.186.73 (196.192.186.73)  3.110 ms  2.774 ms  2.905 ms 
 4  he.ixp.joburg (196.46.25.42)  12.433 ms  2.642 ms  12.030 ms  
 5  10ge3-11.core1.lon2.he.net (184.105.81.253)  209.828 ms  167.863 ms  182.949 ms
 6  100ge1-1.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.166)  232.234 ms  229.330 ms  240.167 ms  
 7  100ge14-2.core1.sjc2.he.net (184.105.81.213)  299.207 ms  298.393 ms  299.074 ms                                    
 8  10ge3-2.core3.fmt2.he.net (184.105.222.13)  293.430 ms  294.104 ms  302.911 ms 
 9  172.18.0.18 (172.18.0.18)  292.804 ms  172.18.0.38 (172.18.0.38)  293.961 ms  293.960 ms                            
10  173.230.159.7 (173.230.159.7)  294.566 ms  293.337 ms  173.230.159.5 (173.230.159.5)  293.985 ms

D:\Users\micro\Downloads>iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201
[ 4] local 192.168.1.2 port 59119 connected to 45.33.39.39 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 256 KBytes 2.10 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 896 KBytes 734 Kbits/sec sender
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 677 KBytes 555 Kbits/sec receiver

I think this tool is flawed or its backend server is bottlenecked.

D:\Users\micro\Downloads>tracert iperf.scottlinux.com

Tracing route to iperf.scottlinux.com [45.33.39.39]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router [192.168.1.1]
2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 196-212-61-1.dynamic.ftth.broadband.is [196.212.61.1]
3 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms cdsl2-rba-vl151.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.10]
4 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 196.38.73.157
5 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms core2b-pkl-te0-0-0-0.ip.isnet.net [196.26.0.63]
6 168 ms 171 ms 169 ms 168.209.201.93
7 186 ms 186 ms 185 ms core1b-dock-ten-0-4-0-0sub8.ip.isnet.net [168.209.246.65]
8 182 ms 174 ms 173 ms 40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net [195.66.224.21]
9 232 ms 236 ms 232 ms 100ge1-1.core1.nyc4.he.net [72.52.92.166]
10 302 ms 302 ms 349 ms 100ge14-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [184.105.81.213]
11 311 ms 301 ms 301 ms 10ge3-2.core3.fmt2.he.net [184.105.222.13]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 308 ms 308 ms 308 ms 173.230.159.1
14 319 ms 320 ms 319 ms iperf.scottlinux.com [45.33.39.39]

 

[Sinbad]

20 streams
[SUM] 0.00-10.00 sec 92.2 MBytes 77.3 Mbits/sec 297 sender
[SUM] 0.00-10.00 sec 86.9 MBytes 72.9 Mbits/sec receiver

 

[Rouxenator]

So I should not get this 844E-2 then ?

Calix GigaCenter 844E-2 | bobshop.co.za

Buy Calix GigaCenter 844E-2 for R151.00

www.bidorbuy.co.za

 

[pinball wizard]

Here I was hoping MD4E had made a return.

 

[Rouxenator]

Calix is shït !!! Unlike EVERY other manufacturer that host their firmware updates on a website, Calix makes you register. Then you get this :

My Calix - Registration (Private) Reg-027054 - a530g000003SlaP

webops@calix.com <webops@calix.com>
Wo. 21 Aug. 21:39 (11 uur gelede)

Dear Paul,

Thank you for registering for My Calix.

Unfortunately, we are unable to grant you access to our site as it is intended for our direct customers only. Please reach out to your service provider regarding any questions or concerns you may have about your Calix products. 

If you feel your registration was processed incorrectly, please reply to this email and a case will be created for reconsideration.

Thank you.

So F U Calix. You are the worst.

 

[My_King]

Calix is shït !!! Unlike EVERY other manufacturer that host their firmware updates on a website, Calix makes you register. Then you get this :

My Calix - Registration (Private) Reg-027054 - a530g000003SlaP

webops@calix.com <webops@calix.com>
Wo. 21 Aug. 21:39 (11 uur gelede)

Dear Paul,

Thank you for registering for My Calix.

Unfortunately, we are unable to grant you access to our site as it is intended for our direct customers only. Please reach out to your service provider regarding any questions or concerns you may have about your Calix products.

If you feel your registration was processed incorrectly, please reply to this email and a case will be created for reconsideration.

Thank you.

So F U Calix. You are the worst.

Ouch, Guess I will stick with Mikrotik then

 

[Rouxenator]

Stupid old me still went ahead and bought it....

 

[Haterade]

Sorry I know this is super off topic, but what are the specs on the PSUs included with these ONTs (or alternatively, what are the power specs on the units themselves)? I'm thinking of running one off a CCTV PSU.