What the ANC says and what the ANC doesn't do. Oops!

Slaine73

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Well in SA it is, monkey see monkey do, but at the same time the government has the policy of do as I say not as I do.....
 

daveza

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http://www.eyewitness.co.za/story.aspx?id=1714

The Electoral Court dismissed an application by the ANC on Tuesday, to allow it to contest 12 by-elections taking place in the Western Cape on Wednesday.

The ruling party took on the Independent Electoral Commission, after it was excluded from contesting for eight wards in the City of Cape Town and four in the Cedarberg Municipality, because it missed the deadline to register its candidates.

The IEC said it’s ready to open voting stations in the 27 wards at 7am on Wednesday morning, but the ANC has come back fighting, launching yet another application to have voting in the 12 wards where it was excluded, postponed.
 

daveza

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http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2439669,00.html

ANC to appeal IEC decision
09/12/2008 21:57 - (SA)

Johannesburg - The ANC will appeal Tuesday's Electoral Court decision which excludes the party from taking part in several Western Cape by-elections.

"The ANC is concerned that voters in the Cape Metro are being denied their right to vote for a candidate of their choice based on a technical problem within the IEC," said party spokesperson Jessie Duarte.

"The ANC has decided to appeal the decision of the Electoral Court."


The Electoral Court in Bloemfontein dismissed an application by the ANC in the Western Cape to contest Wednesday's by-elections in the City of Cape Town and the Cederberg Municipality.

The party took the Independent Electoral Commission to court after 12 of its candidates were excluded from standing in the by-elections. The ANC missed the deadline to register its candidates and to pay their deposits to the Electoral Commission.

"The ANC candidates were on time at the IEC provincial office and had taken cash with them as well as a cheque to register 12 candidates," said Duarte in a statement after the court ruling.

The Electoral Court held that on the ANC's own version, section 17 of the Municipal Electoral Act and the timetable set by the Electoral Commission, were not complied with.

Cr^p ! It is based on a competence problem within the ANC.

According to the court papers, provincial secretary Sipho Kroma said the nomination forms had to be accompanied by a bank-guaranteed cheque for the prescribed amount

Cheque - not cash. Is that so difficult to understand ?

Stupidity is not a valid reason for appeal.
 

Albereth

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The ANC's main crapspinner said that they went to the bank to get the bank guaranteed cheque and arrived back at 5.02. The person who was meant to accept the cheque came down the stairs at 5.10 and, thus, technically they were late.

What bank is open until then? Don't the banks close at 3 or 3.30?

Slightly aside - try being late by just one minute for a government tender. Or try not providing all the information they ask for. Cry me a river but it's just too bad. Yeah, ANC. You are too incompetent to arrive on time or with the correct things and now you want me to let you try and rule. Here's your sign.
 

BTTB

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The ANC is suing the IEC for their own incompetence?

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Listen to this story:
I had the misfortune once for asking the Department of Environmental Affairs for a period of grace/extension or exemption, not sure what they called it then, for being late with an Application for Fishing Rights on my parents behalf.
I handed a letter into Minister Van Schalckwyk's hands, I sent a fax to the Minister, I sent a registered letter to the Minister, amongst a whole lot of other correspondence to his Departments below him, all registered and/or faxed. I even went in and waited outside his office.
To date I have never received a reply or acknowledgement of my efforts to make contact.
>I heard recently some other people who were seeking Fishing Rights even had Ex Foreign Minister Pik Botha send in a letter to Van Schalkwyk. VS used to work for Pik at one stage. Not even an answer to the letter. Fsckall. They just copped you a deafie.

You see this sort of incompetence across the board when it comes to Government Departments. It is actually unconstitutional. The Constitution contains a Bill of Rights in which the right to just administrative action is entrenched in Section 33.

The point is that unless you have the time, the money and the inclination to take a matter to Court you are wasting your time. Our Constitution fails us in this regard as Government Departments know that not everyone has the time nor money to drag matters through the Courts. If Government Departments just followed procedures, not bending the rules, just gave everyone a fair change which is entrenched in our Constitution.

The ANC in this case have the money (our money), the time (paid Legal Representation with our money) to chase any legal matter whether they think they can win it or not. The mere thought of litigation frightens people into submission and this includes the IEC as who pays their salaries or appoints the people to run it.

A bit of a waffle. Just wanted to get something off my chest.

Cheers.
BTTB.
 

daveza

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They still don't get it...

http://www.capeargus.co.za/?fSectionId=3571&fArticleId=4755800&ap=1

Secretary general Gwede Mantashe was dismissive about the fact that the ANC would not be competing in twelve of today’s by-elections, saying that “Shikota” (The Congress of the People) should enjoy the Christmas present they received from the Independent Electoral Commission - while it lasted.

“You can have the elections (today), but when we take the case to Constitutional Court (even if it is only heard) in February, the elections (could be) nullified, and we will have to rerun those elections,” said Mantashe.

He said there was “something very strange” in the process and the decision which saw the ANC being excluded from today’s elections, hinting that the Electoral Court and the IEC were not above board in their actions.

The Electoral Court in Bloemfontein dealt the ANC a blow by dismissing its application to overturn the IEC’s disqualification of ANC candidates who were not registered in time.

The court, chaired by Supreme Court of Appeal Judge Kenneth Mthiyane, found that making an allowance for the ANC would not only “lower the standard of excellence the Electoral Commission has set for itself”, but would also “open the door to a shambolic free for all”.

I go back to this one -

A senior ANC official in the province told the Mail & Guardian: "We [the ANC] were simply too slapgat and arrogant to register our candidates with the IEC by the cut-off date.

Come April there will be new elections anyway so why waste money pursuing this matter now ?
 
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