What to do? Resign or stay on?

[Hamster]

Once you have an offer in the bag from option 2, you could always ask your current company if they want to sweeten their offer to keep you?

This....is sure fire way to increase your chances of getting screwed

 

[StrontiumDog]

This....is sure fire way to increase your chances of getting screwed

Why? I'm not suggesting outright playing one against the other, but perhaps given the chance, the current company will not want to lose him and make it worth his while (financially) to stay? After all, he has 20 years relevant experience as far as it concerns them.

 

[Hamster]

Why? I'm not suggesting outright playing one against the other, but perhaps given the chance, the current company will not want to lose him and make it worth his while (financially) to stay? After all, he has 20 years relevant experience as far as it concerns them.

Hmmm, fair enough. If he was younger it may be more of a problem.

 

[gregmcc]

Once you have an offer in the bag from option 2, you could always ask your current company if they want to sweeten their offer to keep you?

Never do this. Stick to your guns and take opt 2.

 

[StrontiumDog]

Never do this. Stick to your guns and take opt 2.

OK, i phrased it badly. He could ask option 1 now if they would be prepared to increase their offer, assuming he is quite keen on staying with them. However, the chances of them upping the ante by the aforementioned 30-40% is quite unlikely unless they are desperate to keep him. We don't know the details of his situation so we can only surmise.

 

[Drifter]

Such a waste of time. Went through all the checks etc, only to be informed that no white males will be appointed. Strictly AA only. Surely agency could have determined that before we started the whole process. Lucky I have option 1 still in the bag.

 

[Penquin]

Such a waste of time. Went through all the checks etc, only to be informed that no white males will be appointed. Strictly AA only. Surely agency could have determined that before we started the whole process. Lucky I have option 1 still in the bag.

Such a lovely country we live in.

 

[CamiKaze]

Such a waste of time. Went through all the checks etc, only to be informed that no white males will be appointed. Strictly AA only. Surely agency could have determined that before we started the whole process. Lucky I have option 1 still in the bag.

Sorry to hear, but always go for the money when the opportunity presents itself.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Financially, I can really use option 2.

That is all that matters.

Longer contract for more money = financial security.


Everything else is bull**** you can overcome without much drama.

 

[Shard]

Just been offered a contract extension with a marginal increase. The renewal is for 6 months with a possible extension. I will be working on an exciting new project, pure development work, or

I have a possible opportunity for a 1 year renewable contract with a 35-40% increase, but this will be maintenance work on existing legacy systems.


Financially, I can really use option 2.

What to do.

At 35-40%, its option 2, especially if its 1 year.

You slog it for 1 year, at the end you look for other opportunities and you're commanding a +35% salary to bargain with when looking for something you'd enjoy doing.

I've just done exactly that over 2 years took a 20% increase for a year, then another 20% increase for a year doing stuff that wasn't up my street. Now I'm going back to stuff I enjoy at a 12.5% increase. So over 2 years that's a 62% increase.

 

[Drifter]

Option 2 aint happening. I'm too white.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Option 2 aint happening. I'm too white.

Sorry to hear that

 

[ToxicBunny]

Option 2 aint happening. I'm too white.

I would be phoning that agent and giving them a massive rocket for wasting your time.

 

[TelkomUseless]

Such a waste of time. Went through all the checks etc, only to be informed that no white males will be appointed. Strictly AA only. Surely agency could have determined that before we started the whole process. Lucky I have option 1 still in the bag.

Such a lovely country we live in.

this.

And yea.. what a waste of time. I wasted my time with a recruitment lady (after I told her the company is wasting my time, and she said no- I'm just imagining it).

 

[ToxicBunny]

this.

And yea.. what a waste of time. I wasted my time with a recruitment lady (after I told her the company is wasting my time, and she said no- I'm just imagining it).

I've had a few recruitment agents try and waste my time... they quickly learn I'm not biting..

I always ask which company they're submitting my CV to, and for what type of role, and for what salary range... if they can't or won't answer those questions at least, I just refuse to take the process any further.

 

[Ancalagon]

Yeah I have become much more fussy with agents. There are so many - I get linkedin requests every week or so. If one agent is useless, I find another. They all have the same jobs anyway.

 

[Venomous]

OK, i phrased it badly. He could ask option 1 now if they would be prepared to increase their offer, assuming he is quite keen on staying with them. However, the chances of them upping the ante by the aforementioned 30-40% is quite unlikely unless they are desperate to keep him. We don't know the details of his situation so we can only surmise.

no.

negotiating like that is bad.
often a request to match is soon followed by the same person leaving.
Either ask to have an increase or look for/accept new work.

do not

"I can get X package, will you meet/beat it?"
such persons search because they have a need for change, else they would not have looked...

 

[Ancalagon]

no.

negotiating like that is bad.
often a request to match is soon followed by the same person leaving.
Either ask to have an increase or look for/accept new work.

do not

"I can get X package, will you meet/beat it?"
such persons search because they have a need for change, else they would not have looked...

I have heard that never works out well. The relationship is never the same afterwards and you end up leaving anyway.

 

[Venomous]

I have heard that never works out well. The relationship is never the same afterwards and you end up leaving anyway.

yip.

 

[StrontiumDog]

no.

negotiating like that is bad.
often a request to match is soon followed by the same person leaving.
Either ask to have an increase or look for/accept new work.

do not

"I can get X package, will you meet/beat it?"
such persons search because they have a need for change, else they would not have looked...

Generally speaking you are correct. But in his situation he said he actually wanted to stay, except that he needed the money offered in option 2 (which he does not have enough pigment to qualify for).