What to do? Resign or stay on?

[TelkomUseless]

Such a waste of time. Went through all the checks etc, only to be informed that no white males will be appointed. Strictly AA only. Surely agency could have determined that before we started the whole process. Lucky I have option 1 still in the bag.

I've had a few recruitment agents try and waste my time... they quickly learn I'm not biting..

I always ask which company they're submitting my CV to, and for what type of role, and for what salary range... if they can't or won't answer those questions at least, I just refuse to take the process any further.

Yip.. after that scenario I'm way more cautious with any recruiter. The same lady tried after 6month-1 year again.. and I told her politely to f-off.

 

[Drifter]

Confused I am. Received an e-mail from recruiter that the company REALLY liked my CV. He will give me full brief tomorrow. Feel like telling him to f-off, but will hear what he has to say.

 

[Luke7777]

They probably realised that finding a suitable AA candidate for legacy systems is extremely difficult , hence the turnaround

 

[Drifter]

Yeah, but the whole thing is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. If the money wasnt such a very significant difference, I would have told him to forget it.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Confused I am. Received an e-mail from recruiter that the company REALLY liked my CV. He will give me full brief tomorrow. Feel like telling him to f-off, but will hear what he has to say.

Good luck!

 

[Beachless]

I have heard that never works out well. The relationship is never the same afterwards and you end up leaving anyway.

I did it a few times at the company I worked at previously and I was there for 13 years. I guess its all about the aproach and dealing with it factually, do your research and provide facts without any emotion.

 

[Venomous]

I did it a few times at the company I worked at previously and I was there for 13 years. I guess its all about the aproach and dealing with it factually, do your research and provide facts without any emotion.

When I still had a boss...

I got asked to do Z's job (Z left) as a promotion. I said "Sure, what's in it for me?" By the 4th so called promotion I merely held out my hand in an aaking gesture. The 2 big bosses laughed, and I got another 30% increase on my previous salary.
When I left there 6 promotions later I was reporting directly to the senior management. My salary was a bit scewed(closest person below me earned less than half my salary, their's was average at the time) compared to what other places offered. So I took the next step and left. I still visit there at times.


A while ago I asked if they would take me back(was done in jest), but the answer was serious "We cannot afford you, but we wish".
(It is good to know that you are valued even after you left)

 

[Luke7777]

Yeah, but the whole thing is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. If the money wasnt such a very significant difference, I would have told him to forget it.

It's only a year... suck it up

 

[Drifter]

It's only a year... suck it up

A year, renewable.

 

[Luke7777]

A year, renewable.

Even better...if you've got rid of the taste in the meantime

 

[animal531]

With such a gap in salary I wouldn't have recommended option 1 to anyone unless if it is in some super-exciting field that is hard to get into. The younger you are the more of a difference that 30-40% increase is going to make compounded over the long run.

If you feel that your skills are slipping then you can always work on exciting tech in your spare time. But even without that, CV writing and interviews are all about selling yourself, so if you can explain the difference you made to boring/generic project Y then you're just as well off as the guy who worked on the interesting thing (unless of course they're specifically after some skill or piece of knowledge you picked up from the new/interesting thing)

 

[CamiKaze]

if you can explain the difference you made to boring/generic project Y then you're just as well off as the guy who worked on the interesting thing

THIS.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Confused I am. Received an e-mail from recruiter that the company REALLY liked my CV. He will give me full brief tomorrow. Feel like telling him to f-off, but will hear what he has to say.

I would listen to him, but also be brutal and up front that if this is in any way a waste of your time because the company will still be hiring an AA/EE candidate that you will be very public about blasting this specific recruitment agent for wasting your time.

 

[BobsLawnService]

Employment agencies are dodgy these days.

Not long ago I responded to an ad for a team/technical lead/architect position which I applied for. I asked for an average (or so I thought.) salary for that. During the agency interview I was told I'd need to ask for a much smaller salary. I ended up going to the interview and got some snarky comments about why I was asking so much.

About 10 minutes into the interview it turns out that the agency was advertising for a lead/architect position but the job was actually for an intermediate to senior developer position. They were just advertising the more senior position to get more candidates.

Neither the company nor the agency could understand why people were asking for so much money for the actual position. It's like they were living in an alternate dimension of strange.

So, yeah, if you ever find yourself in an employment agency and the clock in reception doesn't work, just excuse yourself and leave.

 

[TelkomUseless]

Employment agencies are dodgy these days.

Not long ago I responded to an ad for a team/technical lead/architect position which I applied for. I asked for an average (or so I thought.) salary for that. During the agency interview I was told I'd need to ask for a much smaller salary. I ended up going to the interview and got some snarky comments about why I was asking so much.

About 10 minutes into the interview it turns out that the agency was advertising for a lead/architect position but the job was actually for an intermediate to senior developer position. They were just advertising the more senior position to get more candidates.

Neither the company nor the agency could understand why people were asking for so much money for the actual position. It's like they were living in an alternate dimension of strange.

So, yeah, if you ever find yourself in an employment agency and the clock in reception doesn't work, just excuse yourself and leave.

I went for an interview few years ago to a company that was suppose to be amazing, awesome number 1 rolled into one. The experience there is top notch etc. Thought okay... did 3 freaking interviews (1st telephonic, 2nd online test which took 2-3hours to complete) 3rd one, was at the company.. only to see what a crappy job/company it was. It was basically a one man show at the client (and only one client). Nothing glamorous/cutting edge as she described.

They 2 guys started talking , preparing for another exam/interview and the more they chat, it realised it's not for .net developer, but more SQL developer with little .net c# experience. I was pissed... wasting so much time... told them right there no thanks. You need a sql developer/bi dev not .net developer...

 

[zippy]

I went for an interview few years ago to a company that was suppose to be amazing, awesome number 1 rolled into one. The experience there is top notch etc. Thought okay... did 3 freaking interviews (1st telephonic, 2nd online test which took 2-3hours to complete) 3rd one, was at the company.. only to see what a crappy job/company it was. It was basically a one man show at the client (and only one client). Nothing glamorous/cutting edge as she described.

They 2 guys started talking , preparing for another exam/interview and the more they chat, it realised it's not for .net developer, but more SQL developer with little .net c# experience. I was pissed... wasting so much time... told them right there no thanks. You need a sql developer/bi dev not .net developer...

Most business applications require SQL, because its usually about data. There is where most jobs are too. Fact of life. SQL pays the bills. I code games and music stuff for the lolz

 

[TelkomUseless]

Most business applications require SQL, because its usually about data. There is where most jobs are too. Fact of life. SQL pays the bills. I code games and music stuff for the lolz

I know SQL very well. But I know there are BI Devs too (which just uses SQL and no .net). This was one of those jobs.

But these agencies push people for any job. O you are a .net developer? Let me send you for a BI/Java/C++/Assembler etc position...