What to expect from South Africa’s new smoking and e-cigarette laws

[Jet-Fighter7700]

This, look at Australia it's 30 dollars a pack and people still buy it.

its a great tax revenue for most governments, they can increase it as much as they like, without any repercussions, and people will still happily pay as its considered a "sin" tax.

best example of quitting as its so expensive.

 

[Lupus]

its a great tax revenue for most governments, they can increase it as much as they like, without any repercussions, and people will still happily pay as its considered a "sin" tax.

best example of quitting as its so expensive.

But it's the same as alcohol? People still pay an exorbitant amount to get drunk.

 

[AstroTurf]

All fine and well but in the end this will basically just turn smokers into lepers.

I am a smoker, I do not go to no smoking places for more time than absolutely necessary. I don't go to indoor restaurants as I have kids and this just means I won't go to restaurants at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't smoke in my car or house but I have comfortable outdoor smoking areas there.

I prefer outdoor life anyway and nature reserves, picknick/braai places are my usual go to but if I am no longer allowed to smoke there, well that means I won't go there.

Now think about this, almost every family and friendship circle has at least 1 smoker. These laws mean these groups will either ostracise the smoker or they will all avoid public spaces and rather braai at home.

 

[Kosmik]

I don't see the logic of banning smoking in designated areas. That just seems stupid.

 

[hungrymamba]

I F***cking hate people who think smoking those fancy pipes in public areas is cool.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Has that worked on Rastafarians? Also you can smoke in your own home, just not in a public place.

I was having a bit of a laugh

 

[Nick333]

More to the point, if I Identify as a Shaman, will banning me from smoking indoors be a curtailment of my religious freedoms?

You might have to do some human sacrifices in protest, but I think you may have solid case.

 

[Lupus]

All fine and well but in the end this will basically just turn smokers into lepers.

I am a smoker, I do not go to no smoking places for more time than absolutely necessary. I don't go to indoor restaurants as I have kids and this just means I won't go to restaurants at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't smoke in my car or house but I have comfortable outdoor smoking areas there.

I prefer outdoor life anyway and nature reserves, picknick/braai places are my usual go to but if I am no longer allowed to smoke there, well that means I won't go there.

Now think about this, almost every family and friendship circle has at least 1 smoker. These laws mean these groups will either ostracise the smoker or they will all avoid public spaces and rather braai at home.

So in order to live your life you'll decide to quit and move on from the filthy habit? As you're now a leper and it's not like it's something that can't be stopped.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

You might have to do some human sacrifices in protest, but I think you may have solid case.

Don't tempt me.

 

[AstroTurf]

So in order to live your life you'll decide to quit and move on from the filthy habit? As you're now a leper and it's not like it's something that can't be stopped.

Too troll for an answer

 

[Lupus]

Too troll for an answer

That's their ultimate goal and why these laws are in place, making it so that you can only smoke at home.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

All fine and well but in the end this will basically just turn smokers into lepers.

I am a smoker, I do not go to no smoking places for more time than absolutely necessary. I don't go to indoor restaurants as I have kids and this just means I won't go to restaurants at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't smoke in my car or house but I have comfortable outdoor smoking areas there.

I prefer outdoor life anyway and nature reserves, picknick/braai places are my usual go to but if I am no longer allowed to smoke there, well that means I won't go there.

Now think about this, almost every family and friendship circle has at least 1 smoker. These laws mean these groups will either ostracise the smoker or they will all avoid public spaces and rather braai at home.

isnt this what governments want? that besides the cost and all the warnings and propaganda to stop,
that eventually what will get people to stop will be their own families.

I mean, dont get me wrong, I think smoking is a nasty habit, and im glad I never ever started.
but I live with a smoker, and I know how hard it is for them to live their lives with smoking, as nowhere is it allowed anymore.

 

[AstroTurf]

isnt this what governments want? that besides the cost and all the warnings and propaganda to stop,
that eventually what will get people to stop will be their own families.

I mean, dont get me wrong, I think smoking is a nasty habit, and im glad I never ever started.
but I live with a smoker, and I know how hard it is for them to live their lives with smoking, as nowhere is it allowed anymore.

It may be the goal but all it will achieve for some time to come is less revenue for public facilities.

I really don't care as I can simply visit my family at home and most of my friends are smokers. I live on a plot and can smoke anywhere I want on it so I still get to visit nature. Only difference is that instead of going to say groenkloof once a month and giving the government R110 in entrance fees + more for kids to do horse rides or hire a bicycle + the other 5 or 6 cars worth of people that go with, we will just braai at home as each car will have at least one smoker in it.

So just one facility loses out on around R1k per month.

If we go to a restaurant (just the 4 of us), thats another R500 to R1k they lose out on. If my whole family go its closer to 2/3K

So yea, thanks government, you just saved me tons of cash I can use to keep buying cigarettes you get no tax on