What will be your Springbok team if you were SA Rugby coach?

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At Craven Week you'd probably find most of those players would have been played at flyhalf as the coach would have wanted them to be as involved in the game as he could get them. At the upper levels they get moved around so much that they can never settle and cement a spot. Some new specialist golden boy comes on the scene and they get shunted to the bench due to their ability to cover lots of positions.
Yea I don't know. All I can say is that they are too good to be wasted in one position. Which is sad for the players involved but it does make team selection a little easier. Rule of thumb though. If my laaitjie is ever good enough to be a very good rugby player. I will do my best to make sure he plays one position and one only. Obviously things will change as they become teens. But once they become a jack of all trades that is what they will be for their entire career.
 
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Yea I don't know. All I can say is that they are too good to be wasted in one position. Which is sad for the players involved but it does make team selection a little easier. Rule of thumb though. If my laaitjie is ever good enough to be a very good rugby player. I will do my best to make sure he plays one position and one only. Obviously things will change as they become teens. But once they become a jack of all trades that is what they will be for their entire career.
Ha ha yeah that one position thing definitely only sets in in their teens! I started out playing prop at primary school level. Then it was decided to try me at hooker. Then moved to flanker and eighth man. I was never built to be a prop but apparently the coach felt I was strong so decided this was the place for me. I'd never even get a look in as a prop now! Loose forward perhaps.
 

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I was never built to be a prop but apparently the coach felt I was strong so decided this was the place for me. I'd never even get a look in as a prop now! Loose forward perhaps.
Don't lie, you're a suited to playing linesman now.... :p
 

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I reckon Rudolph Straeuli is the main reason Natal has seen such a great exodus of top players over the last couple of seasons. I get the impression that he is a bit repulsive....
 

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Fourie Du Preez is, was and always will be in a class of his own when it comes to the number 9 spot. He is the best number 9 in the world currently, trying to weigh RP up against him is just retarded. Fourie Du Preez is the spine in the Boks squad and we can see he is being missed ALOT!
Pitbull some guys just don't understand. All they see are "plays", this & that. They don't see & some possibly understand his technical ability & decision making skills he brings. Its like a midfielder in football who is always doing the great work but people only see the strikers scoring. He is brilliant & also rated extremely very high by both NZ & Aus rugby shows on SS.
 

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Pitbull some guys just don't understand. All they see are "plays", this & that. They don't see & some possibly understand his technical ability & decision making skills he brings. Its like a midfielder in football who is always doing the great work but people only see the strikers scoring. He is brilliant & also rated extremely very high by both NZ & Aus rugby shows on SS.
Fourie Du Preez will be playing his rugby in Japan after the world cup. We must debate about the future of SA rugby, not the past..
Joost van der Westhuizen is the most successful Springbok scrumhalf of all time, scoring 38 tries in total. I doubt that Du Preez will ever surpass that
 

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Fourie Du Preez will be playing his rugby in Japan after the world cup. We must debate about the future of SA rugby, not the past..
Joost van der Westhuizen is the most successful Springbok scrumhalf of all time, scoring 38 tries in total. I doubt that Du Preez will ever surpass that
Exactly what D3x mentioned you've just gone and proved him right :D
 

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Not too sure what Freud would say but I like big springboks. That being said I think that I'd play Spies on wing and bring Bismark in as a flank. One of the problems that I think we have is that the loose forwards don't clear out the rucks. They should leave the ball and remove the opposition. I'd want to find a space for Juan De Jongh so either of the cart horses in the centre could go to the bench.

And the Beast - I want him somewhere too.
 

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Not too sure what Freud would say but I like big springboks. That being said I think that I'd play Spies on wing and bring Bismark in as a flank. One of the problems that I think we have is that the loose forwards don't clear out the rucks. They should leave the ball and remove the opposition. I'd want to find a space for Juan De Jongh so either of the cart horses in the centre could go to the bench.

And the Beast - I want him somewhere too.
is your name by any chance Harry Viljoen?
 

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Not too sure what Freud would say but I like big springboks. That being said I think that I'd play Spies on wing and bring Bismark in as a flank. One of the problems that I think we have is that the loose forwards don't clear out the rucks. They should leave the ball and remove the opposition. I'd want to find a space for Juan De Jongh so either of the cart horses in the centre could go to the bench.

And the Beast - I want him somewhere too.
You know what....

I love this idea :) Would be great to see what he does on wing. Even if just for a few games. I recall a man being unstopable in the WC95 and I see Spies as another one. He hasn't played wing in many years but it would be pretty interresting. Get rid of Habana and put him there. We have more than enough no8's on good form to stand in his place.
 

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no 1 team
15 Lambi
14 Mvovo
13 Fourie
12 De Jong
11 Aplon
10 F Steyn
9 Henderson
8 Kankowski
7 Alberts
6 Burger
5 Hargraves
4 Bekker
3 Beast
2 Bismark
1 Oosthuizen
 
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1) Coenie Oosthuizen (boasts surprising pace for a man of his colossal weight (127 kg) he ended the 2010 Currie Cup season as the Cheetahs top try scorer)
2) Bismarck du Plessis / Adriaan Strauss
3) Jannie du Plessis
4) Flip vd Merwe / Hargreaves
5) Victor Matfield
6) Brussouw / J. Smith / Louw
7) Schalk Burger
8) Willem Alberts / Ashley Johnson (Best 8th man in the S15 imo well that or the hardest working)
9) Fourie "There can be only one" Du Preez
10) Morne Steyn
11) Bjorn Basson
12) De Jongh / De Villiers (With the other on the bench)
13) J. Fourie
14) Mvovo
15) Gio Aplon (Really has shown he can be a big plus)

16) Guthro Steenkamp
17) Bismarck du Plessis / Adriaan Strauss
18) Danie Russouw
19) De villiers / de Jongh
20) Hougaard
21) Tendai Mtawarira
22) Lambie / Butch
 
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1) Coenie Oosthuizen (boasts surprising pace for a man of his colossal weight (127 kg) he ended the 2010 Currie Cup season as the Cheetahs top try scorer)
2) Bismarck du Plessis / Adriaan Strauss
3) Jannie du Plessis
4) Andries Bekker (best lock in SA atm) Flip vd Merwe / Hargreaves
5) Victor Matfield
6) Brussouw / J. Smith / Louw
7) Schalk Burger
8) Willem Alberts / Ashley Johnson (Best 8th man in the S15 imo well that or the hardest working)
9) Fourie "There can be only one" Du Preez
10) Morne Steyn
11) Bryan Habana - work rate and brings more to the game (Bjorn Basson - inexperienced and need games under his belt
12) De Jongh / De Villiers (With the other on the bench)
13) J. Fourie
14) Mvovo
15) Gio Aplon (Really has shown he can be a big plus)

16) Guthro Steenkamp
17) Bismarck du Plessis / Adriaan Strauss
18) Danie Russouw
19) De villiers / de Jongh
20) Hougaard
21) Tendai Mtawarira
22) Lambie / Butch
Peter Grant - next best flyhalf in the country
 
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Peter Grant - next best flyhalf in the country
Yes sad to see that there was a place for Jantjies but not for Grant....

And I feel Andries bekker and Victor Matfield can only play together if Bekker is told to play a tighter game.

With this team we should stand a fair chance to get to and win the WC final....
 
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