WhatsApp watch groups drive fear

Solarion said:
You could take that entire article, change a couple of words and it would paint quite a reliable picture of how Liberals prowl Twitter and Facebook looking for their next 'suspicious behavior'.
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MTV has rights to that show already
 
LazyLion said:
I never said there was anything wrong with the descriptor.

The racism comes in applying it to the innocent individual in the suburb.

So calm your CPF manboobs...
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And who's allowed to decide that? Who decides who's a possible threat or not? Are you a mindreader or can you see the future?

The clue is in the NAME...neighborhood WATCH.

So If I say: There is a black guy walking up and down the street for no apparent reason....I am now a racist?

What if a POC member of the Neigborhood watch says: Their is a white guy walking up and down the street for no apparant reason? Are they also racist then?

Maybe calm your racism tits?
 
LazyLion said:
I never said there was anything wrong with the descriptor.

The racism comes in applying it to the innocent individual in the suburb.

So calm your CPF manboobs...
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Yes you did. This was your post:
LazyLion said:
WhatsApp grpups are a pain in the Butt, but a necessary evil.
And yes... she is correct... the comments of "There is a Bravo guy walking down Moepel Street looking at the houses" is all too common.
It's racism in all it's naked glory...
Usually... the guy is a recycler, or a job seeker... or just the council meter reader.
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Ungrateful people like you have absolutely no understanding of the problem, and the brainless criticism of efforts to solve them is the evidence.

The manboobs that you speak about develop whilst you lie on your couch in your braairoom watching TV and eating potato crisps, criticising the (admittedly poor sometimes) efforts of real men that are willing to sacrifice home comforts for a few hours and exercise their pecs (and other body parts) in the prevention of crime. I am not saying that they are perfect, but when the **** strikes the fan they are all that we have. I take my hat off to them.

Go and actually do some footpatrols with your CPF, and allow the scales to fall off your eyes.
 
chrisc said:
She was dropped and kicked up a stink
"Were we excluding her because she is a coloured woman?"
"She has given up her valuable time to keep people safe"
"Did we know she is the first line of defence"
So she was put back
The group I see has 4 members now. Her, her husband and daughter and one other person (who we think is dead anyway)
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Community Whatsapp groups have a very important role: Intelligence. What you describe was Counter-intelligence.
 
marine1 said:
Are these armchair critic the ones on whatsapp crime groups?
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That would be the definition.
You’ll know who said it, get your group together and show Leah what real men do.

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garp said:
Why is MyBroadband publishing this woke drivel? I really hope this platform isn’t turning into just another corporate mouthpiece for the post modernist, post truth, inter-sectionalist, crt loonies.
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"THIS! is CNN!":ROFL:

Haven't read crap like this in a long time. Let's invite the Author to live in Norwood where a family member has had at least 3 individuals inside his yard at all hours of the day jumping over massive walls just to come and have a friendly Chit Chat on a weekly basis...
 
MightyQuin said:
And who's allowed to decide that? Who decides who's a possible threat or not? Are you a mindreader or can you see the future?

The clue is in the NAME...neighborhood WATCH.

So If I say: There is a black guy walking up and down the street for no apparent reason....I am now a racist?

What if a POC member of the Neigborhood watch says: Their is a white guy walking up and down the street for no apparant reason? Are they also racist then?

Maybe calm your racism tits?
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Um, a person walking in the street is NOT committing a crime.

Their BEING THERE... is not a crime.

That is racist apartheid thinking.
 
RonSwanson said:
Yes you did. This was your post:

Ungrateful people like you have absolutely no understanding of the problem, and the brainless criticism of efforts to solve them is the evidence.

The manboobs that you speak about develop whilst you lie on your couch in your braairoom watching TV and eating potato crisps, criticising the (admittedly poor sometimes) efforts of real men that are willing to sacrifice home comforts for a few hours and exercise their pecs (and other body parts) in the prevention of crime. I am not saying that they are perfect, but when the **** strikes the fan they are all that we have. I take my hat off to them.

Go and actually do some footpatrols with your CPF, and allow the scales to fall off your eyes.
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What problem? Black people being on the streets?
 
Come to the platteland , get out of your high security complex , 90% white neighbourhood .

And see the real SA
 
RonSwanson said:
Go and actually do some footpatrols with your CPF, and allow the scales to fall off your eyes.
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The article author, who researched this topic, stated that she did an in-depth investigation,

I spent a year researching the fear of crime in Observatory.

Attending meetings, joining patrols, listening to stories, interviewing key persons such as the manager of the private security staff, and occasionally accompanying the police on their drives, I could observe how fear became part of everyday practice.

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The membership form explained that foot patrols were to be the main purpose of the neighbourhood watch. But few of the quickly growing members actually attended these. Most simply attended monthly meetings to voice their concerns.

For the most part, these members settled into ‘couch patrolling’. This involved watching the neighbourhood less formally, for instance from their house windows or on their way to the shop.
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she doesn't elaborate about the real work being done, other than criticising those she labelled as couch patrolling. She targeted the couch patrollers, and the readers will view this as the general perception come to neighbourhood watch and or patrol groups. It is common sense to assume that a ‘couch patroller’ doesn’t have the situational awareness to correctly determine an observational occurrence, though an alert shouldn't be disregarded, however there are experienced couch patrollers whom have served in the SANDF, security and or the police, or is otherwise good at sleuthing, who can make more accurate alerts.

The problem I have is that she grouped the entire community as a collective, hence my above remark come to perception,

My findings show that the neighbourhood watch group as a collective would spread suspicion in certain directions — not least of all through the use of social media apps.
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it doesn't matter who, in her view, it is a collective, though her study is applicable to a Cape Town, Observatory, watch group which is unique. The same experiences won't necessarily be experienced in another watch group, and Observatory may have more than one watch group. In my view, the author would also need to deep-dive into other watch groups to better grasp the dynamics.

In the end, the best these watch groups can do is to better moderate their social channels, and it shouldn't be used to promote non-security messages, which is all too common. These groups also do have their schit stirrers, many who doesn't even belong to the respective community. All in all, it is always best to be precautionary.

We don't have these issues in our, or my community, watch groups, and we do have multiple, some are hosted by security companies. The only irritation we have are people using it to gossip, though it is quickly culled.

Anyone remembers a certain local personality making remarks about the neighbourhood watch bakkie drivers during the July unrest?
 
LazyLion said:
Um, a person walking in the street is NOT committing a crime.

Their BEING THERE... is not a crime.

That is racist apartheid thinking.
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Who said they were committing a crime?

Who said them being there...is a crime?

You're being obtuse and not seeing the forest for the trees.

You also obviously have NO idea what the function of a Neighborhood WATCH is...

YOU are still stuck in the dompas days...thinking everybody is racist.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
The article author, who researched this topic, stated that she did an in-depth investigation,



she doesn't elaborate about the real work being done, other than criticising those she labelled as couch patrolling. She targeted the couch patrollers, and the readers will view this as the general perception come to neighbourhood watch and or patrol groups. It is common sense to assume that a ‘couch patroller’ doesn’t have the situational awareness to correctly determine an observational occurrence, though an alert shouldn't be disregarded, however there are experienced couch patrollers whom have served in the SANDF, security and or the police, or is otherwise good at sleuthing, who can make more accurate alerts.

The problem I have is that she grouped the entire community as a collective, hence my above remark come to perception,



it doesn't matter who, in her view, it is a collective, though her study is applicable to a Cape Town, Observatory, watch group which is unique. The same experiences won't necessarily be experienced in another watch group, and Observatory may have more than one watch group. In my view, the author would also need to deep-dive into other watch groups to better grasp the dynamics.

In the end, the best these watch groups can do is to better moderate their social channels, and it shouldn't be used to promote non-security messages, which is all too common. These groups also do have their schit stirrers, many who doesn't even belong to the respective community. All in all, it is always best to be precautionary.

We don't have these issues in our, or my community, watch groups, and we do have multiple, some are hosted by security companies. The only irritation we have are people using it to gossip, though it is quickly culled.

Anyone remembers a certain local personality making remarks about the neighbourhood watch bakkie drivers during the July unrest?
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You're overthinking it too much. It is VERY simple:

If a white person says that there may be a suspicious person in the area...and that suspicious person happens to be a POC....RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! APARTHEID HIT SQUADS ASSEMBLE!!!!!!!!!
 
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