Which Broadband ISP does "not" shape bitorrent traffic

Garth Bond

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Hi Folks,

Have had a real challenge with Telkom, given the prevented me from churning to Afrihost by offering me un-shaped and un-capped 4 Mbps ADSL service.

However, I notice that I am definitely being shaped, especially at night, right down to 10-40 KBps. I have tried all the various tricks to hide my traffic but it seems they have some deep packed inspection tools and it only works for a while and then is shaped right down.

Most forums suggest moving to an ISP that does not shape torrent traffic.

So, my question is do we know categorically which ISP in JHB does not shape torrent traffic?

Please advise

Regards
garth
 

zolly

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If it's uncapped it's shaped. The only thing is you pay more for less shaped packages. If you want true unshaped then you have to pay per gig.

If you go for the high end OpenWeb uncapped packages you'll probably be good to go most of the time.
 

Electric

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Torrents are shaped but there are other alternatives.

I use Expressfiles sometimes which seems to retrieve torrent trackers and load them into a separate downloader.
I get full speedsthis way whereas utorrent sits at 1/3 of the speed.
 

sakkiemotto

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Try using a good paid for VPN, I am also with TI and have no speed issues with Torrents.
 

grim

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You're going to be looking at paying at least R1800/m for 4Mbps uncapped unshapped.
 

MGRobinson

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I would suggest that it is something other than your Telkom Internet account. Maybe a line issue or something like that. Reason I say so is that most of the traffic goes through the networks during the day and so day time should be shaped much more heavily than night. I would suggest two things:
1. Contact Telkom support on 10210 and explain your issue and see if they can help you solve your issue
2. Get a free 1GB capped account from Afrihost or a free test account from another ISP and test it

Hi Folks,

Have had a real challenge with Telkom, given the prevented me from churning to Afrihost by offering me un-shaped and un-capped 4 Mbps ADSL service.

However, I notice that I am definitely being shaped, especially at night, right down to 10-40 KBps. I have tried all the various tricks to hide my traffic but it seems they have some deep packed inspection tools and it only works for a while and then is shaped right down.

Most forums suggest moving to an ISP that does not shape torrent traffic.

So, my question is do we know categorically which ISP in JHB does not shape torrent traffic?

Please advise

Regards
garth
 

Chevron

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Hi Folks,

Have had a real challenge with Telkom, given the prevented me from churning to Afrihost by offering me un-shaped and un-capped 4 Mbps ADSL service.

However, I notice that I am definitely being shaped, especially at night, right down to 10-40 KBps. I have tried all the various tricks to hide my traffic but it seems they have some deep packed inspection tools and it only works for a while and then is shaped right down.

Most forums suggest moving to an ISP that does not shape torrent traffic.

So, my question is do we know categorically which ISP in JHB does not shape torrent traffic?

Please advise

Regards
garth

Cheapest option is this:
http://www.afrihost.com/site/product/business_adsl?src=website_nav

If it's uncapped it's shaped.

I take it you haven't heard of business uncapped?
 

UrbanNet

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ISP's may not shape the bandwidth on their uncapped packages but they will use their FUP if you go over a certain limit within their FUP
 

Paul Hjul

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Afrihost business is unshaped. IIRC Telkom is also unshaped.

Don't however make the mistake of assuming that the only reason why torrents could be slow to download - your own router may have QoS shaping your connection on site and more importantly an unshaped service is unshaped for everybody. More guys this side using a P2P protocol but not sharing with each other higher latencies and slow connections - things get confused in a traffic jam
 

Paul Hjul

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ISP's may not shape the bandwidth on their uncapped packages but they will use their FUP if you go over a certain limit within their FUP

NOPE

ISPs may shape as much as they like on uncapped what they may not do is to throttle without stating at what point they throttle or to what speed they throttle -> which is exactly what MWEB is threatening to do. ISPs must also clearly state what their shaping policy is. Afrihost is clear about their shaping policies as I think is OpenWeb (I haven't fully checked) and IS - - again MWEB is not.
 
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