Which political party are you planning to vote for?

Which political party are you planning to vote for?

  • ANC

    Votes: 20 4.5%
  • DA

    Votes: 192 43.6%
  • EFF

    Votes: 6 1.4%
  • IFP

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • FF+

    Votes: 41 9.3%
  • UDM

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • COPE

    Votes: 16 3.6%
  • ZACP

    Votes: 74 16.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 28 6.4%
  • I am not going to vote

    Votes: 57 13.0%

  • Total voters
    440

Solitude

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Racist in chief is an absolute moron.

Free this free that, no clue where the money will come from.

Cancel student debt - well then the universities wont be able to afford any teachers.

No private education - get real fool.

Universal computer literacy, .... in a country where matriculants can't even read or write properly.

And lastly - compulsory tertiary education... free of course, in universities which have no teachers.

I must apologise to the cretins who keep voting ANC - y'all are absolute mensa candidates compared to anyone who votes EFF.
I wrote about this in another thread. The EFF's manifesto is filled with lies and delusions. It boggles my mind how anyone can vote for a party that either:
1. Straight out lies, knowing they can't possibly do what they say they will do.
2. Or even worse, a party that actually believe the insanity that they wrote down.
 

BBSA

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Receive a spam sms from the GOOD party this morning:mad:

Wonder if De Lille stole the DA'S mailing list :X3:
 

Chris_the_Brit

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I wrote about this in another thread. The EFF's manifesto is filled with lies and delusions. It boggles my mind how anyone can vote for a party that either:
1. Straight out lies, knowing they can't possibly do what they say they will do.
2. Or even worse, a party that actually believe the insanity that they wrote down.
Because the people who vote for them don't have the critical thinking capabilities to distinguish between fact and fiction. Also, many of them want to "stick it to the whites", thinking they are responsible for their, admittedly, rather crappy situation in life.

Of course there are also EFF supporters who do know better but only care about getting elected as a MP so make promises that sound good to get the votes. I mean, Dali Mpofu's son, Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh, did a Master's at the very colonial institution of Oxford and is doing a PhD there yet he just sprouts complete nonsense all the time. He also led the failed #RhodesMustFall campaign at Oxford, forgetting that Brits don't like to be told how to think about their history by a foreigner. I even know people in Britain who vote for the left wing Labour party who thought the whole campaign was a load of bollocks.
 

stefan9

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Undecided. All the popular parties are pro an issue that is non negotiable for me.
 

thechamp

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Because the people who vote for them don't have the critical thinking capabilities to distinguish between fact and fiction. Also, many of them want to "stick it to the whites", thinking they are responsible for their, admittedly, rather crappy situation in life.

Of course there are also EFF supporters who do know better but only care about getting elected as a MP so make promises that sound good to get the votes. I mean, Dali Mpofu's son, Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh, did a Master's at the very colonial institution of Oxford and is doing a PhD there yet he just sprouts complete nonsense all the time. He also led the failed #RhodesMustFall campaign at Oxford, forgetting that Brits don't like to be told how to think about their history by a foreigner. I even know people in Britain who vote for the left wing Labour party who thought the whole campaign was a load of bollocks.
Is Dali Mpofu's son an EFF member?
 

Chris_the_Brit

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Is Dali Mpofu's son an EFF member?
I don't know if he is a member but he is a prominent supporter on social media. He should be a member, his dad is after all and guaranteed to get into parliament as he is high up on the list.
 

C4Cat

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Because the people who vote for them don't have the critical thinking capabilities to distinguish between fact and fiction. Also, many of them want to "stick it to the whites", thinking they are responsible for their, admittedly, rather crappy situation in life.

Of course there are also EFF supporters who do know better but only care about getting elected as a MP so make promises that sound good to get the votes. I mean, Dali Mpofu's son, Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh, did a Master's at the very colonial institution of Oxford and is doing a PhD there yet he just sprouts complete nonsense all the time. He also led the failed #RhodesMustFall campaign at Oxford, forgetting that Brits don't like to be told how to think about their history by a foreigner. I even know people in Britain who vote for the left wing Labour party who thought the whole campaign was a load of bollocks.
There's also people that have gotten a response from the EFF to their pleas for help, after being ignored by everyone else. They get **** done. See this thread for example:
Easy to judge people without knowing them or why they've made the choices they make. So easy to just call them stupid and move on.
 

BBSA

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Whatever you do on 8 May, don’t not vote

Voting in this general election may seem like an exercise in futility, but that is the wrong attitude. Voting is the most fundamental expression of our democratic rights, and, at the very least, spoil your ballot paper rather than not vote at all.

There are clear and obvious decisions being taken by many to stay away from voting in the national elections on 8 May 2019, which appear to be driven largely by reasons of disillusionment in the outcomes of our current political system; or the abuse of political authority; or of insufficient resonance with a myriad of political party offerings.

While we have the right to abstain from voting in South Africa, I would argue that “not voting” is the wrong way to express dissent when it comes to the performance of politics in SA. Instead, take the time to search for a party that best aligns with your values, or use it strategically to reduce party political dominance and promote coalition governance. Whatever you do, don’t stay away.

When one considers all that has gone before to achieve our hard-won freedom of which we are all part – be it before or after one’s birth – voting in the elections is the most significant of all public participation processes that determine how our country is run.


A decision not to vote because of insufficient resonance with any political party or because you believe your vote will not change matters, is a weak excuse and quite frankly removes you from the right to complain when Government fails you. By not voting, you accept the status quo and signal that you are happy with our politics and government performance.

A decline in voter turn-out is regarded as growth in voter apathy. So if you really can’t choose a party, do yourself and this country a favour and at least rock up at the polling station and spoil your vote. A spoilt vote at least says “I didn’t stay away”. It says “I took the time and effort to go to the polling stations and cast my non-vote as a message of disapproval in the system.”

A ballot paper is regarded as a spoilt vote if it has anything more than one cross alongside one party, or if the vote counters and monitors are unable to determine with certainty that the vote was clearly cast for one party. A line across the page is a spoilt vote. A descriptive note on the ballot paper is also a spoilt vote.

The table below shows the history of voter turn-out and spoilt papers in the past three South African national elections. While the spoilt vote has been pretty consistent, ranging between 1,34% and 1,58% since 2004, there was a 4% decline in the voter turn-out between 2009 (77,3%) and 2014 (73,5%). If this was due to dissension in the system, the politicians will simply put that decline down to voter apathy. However, if that 4% did turn up and spoilt their ballot papers, a 5% to 6% number of spoilt votes would equate to around a million votes – assuming a 75% voter turn-out of the 26.7-million registered voters – and would be too big to ignore.


Personally, I cherish the hard-won right for all South Africans to vote and have voted at every opportunity availed to me, and never once have I spoilt my vote, nor do I ever intend to do so.

My message however to those who are fortunate enough to be one of the 26.7-million citizens registered to vote and who have chosen not to vote for whatever reason, the least you can do is make the effort and spoil your vote.
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2019-05-04-whatever-you-do-on-8-may-dont-not-vote/amp
 

daveza

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Wayne Duvenage, who died and made you god ?

quite frankly removes you from the right to complain when Government fails you. By not voting, you accept the status quo and signal that you are happy with our politics and government performance.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Just don't put it out as fact.

I support your opinions in many things but in this instance you are just a stupid twat.

That you are a stupid twat is just my opinion, not fact.
 

BeerIsNotGood...

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ForceFate

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Because the people who vote for them don't have the critical thinking capabilities to distinguish between fact and fiction. Also, many of them want to "stick it to the whites", thinking they are responsible for their, admittedly, rather crappy situation in life.

Of course there are also EFF supporters who do know better but only care about getting elected as a MP so make promises that sound good to get the votes. I mean, Dali Mpofu's son, Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh, did a Master's at the very colonial institution of Oxford and is doing a PhD there yet he just sprouts complete nonsense all the time. He also led the failed #RhodesMustFall campaign at Oxford, forgetting that Brits don't like to be told how to think about their history by a foreigner. I even know people in Britain who vote for the left wing Labour party who thought the whole campaign was a load of bollocks.
Then, there are those who've experienced real service from EFF. There are people dedicated to serving their communities in the EFF as well. I've seen it with my own eyes*

*This is no endorsement for the party from me. I'm sharing the alternative view of the situation.
 
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