Whistleblowers’ evidence of NASA UFO fraud might kill UK hacker case

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Evidence that U.S. space agency NASA has defrauded U.S. taxpayers for billions of dollars could scrap NASA’s case against UK hacker Gary McKinnon. Credible witnesses have claimed that NASA has altered or destroyed its photos containing images of UFOs. This could become a legal and public relations nightmare for NASA.

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Part of NASA's mission is to look for signs of intelligent life in outer space. So asking for more money to 'look', after they've already destroyed evidence that they 'found', is a not going to be easy.
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the guy should not go to jail for life - that's crazy
in the UK he was going to get community service, but USA wants life in prison?

why is this under sciences, in the off topic section
shouldn't it be under current affairs?
 
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He's not on trial for claiming to have found UFO photo's, he's on trial for breaking into NASA computers.

I don't really see how this changes anything. So the files really exist, he still accessed them illegally.
 

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NASA are a bunch of cowards. Release the damn info already.

what are you talking about?
there are no files
he broke into their computers and USA wants to make an example out of him
there are no x-files at NASA (ET is part of what they are trying to find - believe me, they'll let us know)
this is just about crappy security
the punishment does not fit the crime
 

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what are you talking about?
there are no files
he broke into their computers and USA wants to make an example out of him
there are no x-files at NASA (ET is part of what they are trying to find - believe me, they'll let us know)
this is just about crappy security
the punishment does not fit the crime

What do you mean there are no files? He hacked info their machines and got the files.
 

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Yes, causing fear and panic is something they would do. yep, i'll believe you.

it's part of what NASA does - look for ET
they have not found anything yet
if they find something they will tell the press
NASA is all about discovering stuff - that's what the exploration of space is about

and what about SETI?
you don't think SETI would tell us?
it's what they do: Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
 

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The only way the man on the street will find out that UFO's and ALiens really do exist is if those same UFO's do a japanese kamikaze stunt on NYC. Otherwise it will be as hush hush as... well... um... many other things SECRET Services doesn't tell us...
 

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If some people are to be believed, ET turned up at Obama's inauguration:

ASTONISHING video of a UFO flying over President Barack Obama's historic inauguration has appeared on the internet.

The video shows a dark object flying past the Washington Monument as nearly two million people gathered to witness America’s first black president be sworn into office, says Britain's The Sun.

The clip shows CNN anchors Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper discussing President Obama’s historic speech, before cutting to a shot of the scene of Washington DC's Capitol.

Youtube video here.

Others are saying it was a UAV drone on security duty.
 

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it's part of what NASA does - look for ET
they have not found anything yet
if they find something they will tell the press
NASA is all about discovering stuff - that's what the exploration of space is about

and what about SETI?
you don't think SETI would tell us?
it's what they do: Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence



LOL :D

Are you being serious or sarcastic ?
 

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You'll believe Apollo astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, over NASA? :confused:

I am not saying I do not believe or believe the Edgar Mitchell claims. But NASA is a government agency what do you think will happen if NASA admit UFO's exist. There will be mass public panic not to even mention the **** that will stir in the religious communities.

In 1995, a pilot reported seeing a unknown flying object he then contacted the control tower, the control tower contacted NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) - NORAD confirms they are tracking a UFO (the recording is available) but then in the official statement NORAD denies ever tracking a UFO.

In another incident a pilot with 20 000 hours flying experience reports a UFO flew about 30 feet above his plane insanely fast. A few days later the US government releases a statement that it was a... weather balloon
 

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I am not saying...

I know about those incidents. Did you watch The Disclosure Project's press conference in Washington DC? I defiantly think there are fast craft up there, but I don't understand why they say they are ET. Do they have proof of ET involvement? I'd really like to see some proof. Not proof of a government cover up, proof of ET. That's what all this is about, is it not? Is there proof of ETs? That's a fair question, yes?
 

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I know about those incidents. Did you watch The Disclosure Project's press conference in Washington DC? I defiantly think there are fast craft up there, but I don't understand why they say they are ET. Do they have proof of ET involvement? I'd really like to see some proof. Not proof of a government cover up, proof of ET. That's what all this is about, is it not? Is there proof of ETs? That's a fair question, yes?

If ET's do exist any really evidence will be subject to a cover up.

A well researched thread about the 1978 Kaikoura UFO sightings.


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread410406/pg1

Caught on film by TV crew: The 1978 Kaikoura UFO sightings

One of New Zealand's biggest mysteries and one of the world's best documented UFO cases is the Kaikoura sightings in 1978. Nearly 30 years later, the amazing events are still unexplained. The sightings were confirmed by radar visual sightings – and also filmed in color aboard a Argosy freighter aircraft flying south from Wellington to Christchurch and back again on the night of December 31 1978.

The New Zealand Ministry of Defence and other parties came up with a variety of explanations for these sightings:
– Lights from squid boats reflected off clouds -(official explanation)
– One psychiatrist suggested that the people onboard the Argosy had lost their faith in God, and that they were seeing angels (!) (LOL).


Another well researched page about government coverup of UFOs

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread166603/pg1

Government Coverup of UFOs - Proven?
 

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Evidence of craft in the sky, and their government coverups, is irrefutable.
I don't question that.
 
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FRINGE!!! Come on people - aliens I won't belive in til I see them - but a largely capitalist world run on the lines of: We have to proceed, so we will invent but if we give everyone all these cool toys, people will stop buying. If Tesla could have thought up "practically free" energy over 100+ years ago, are you seriously trying to tell me that over all that time noone has been able to go further?

The man who invents (for arguements sake) a battery tht will power a laptop for 2 years would be silenced before they could industrialize something like that...
Why? Because where would the profit be in a battery that lasts two years? Now extrapolate this to other fields and you'll see that governments (regardless of their leanings) will keep everything hush-hush just to get more money out of people.

Then again, I could just be a crackpot! :D
 
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