Whites leaving SA in droves

[UnoPanelvan]

Views wanted...
I grew up in Lagos for 13 years. We saw the decline of Rhodesia and now hopefully not SA.
But I still believe in Africa. Is it nuts to think about relocating now to SA or even Zimbabwe?
There will always be money to be made, even if it seems obsure now.

Nick

At the price of who's life? Not worth it.

 

[UnoPanelvan]

Kind of funny how the increased number of people selling and giving the reason as emigration seems to correlate perfectly with the rising interest rates.

Some people just find it easier to blame crime than admitting they cannot handle their finances properly. I know three individuals who are leaving as they are battling here, through their own bad decisions, and see the grass as being greener! Two of these are using the fact that if they up and leave they can get their hands on their provident fund money when they resign as a further motivating factor!!

Any excuse apart from the real facts will suit you fine. Live in your own dreamworld of the perfect SA. None of these bad things is true, we are all just hallucinating.

 

[UnoPanelvan]

Kind of funny how the increased number of people selling and giving the reason as emigration seems to correlate perfectly with the rising interest rates.

Some people just find it easier to blame crime than admitting they cannot handle their finances properly. I know three individuals who are leaving as they are battling here, through their own bad decisions, and see the grass as being greener! Two of these are using the fact that if they up and leave they can get their hands on their provident fund money when they resign as a further motivating factor!!

Which one of the ten excuses do you wnt to use now, or just thumb suck a few more.

So you cannot even influence those you know? Or they are so pi$$ed off and tired of hearing how good South Africa is and what they see and experience is all just wrongly perceived, that they prefer to emigrate rather than listen to you SA do gooders another damn day.

 

[Lord Anubis]

A pal of mine who left for UK 2 yrs ago is coming back. He says cost of living wise its better to live here! He's an Asset Mgr

 

[Lord Anubis]

Oh ja regarding crime he says its everywhere and isnt such a major factor!??

 

[Skinner]

Any excuse apart from the real facts will suit you fine. Live in your own dreamworld of the perfect SA. None of these bad things is true, we are all just hallucinating.

Okay, your sarcasm is noted, SA is horrible. Like from a website, quoted below:
(refer to http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=126563)

6:00 am : Awoken again by the sounds of gun shots and screams of rape. Take a quick walk around the house. Kids are still alive. Temporary.

6 30 am : Dig out some old cans of baked beans from the rations pantry. Hardly an appropriate meal for a man on death row. And as a white South African who plans to go out today to go to work , one might as well be walking the green mile.

7 : am : Begin the pointless task of taking a shower. I'll soon be covered in blood and bits of strangers brains anyway. As always when showering I chiefly think about Jacob Zuma. Did you know Africans think showering and beetroot can cure aids ?

I get out and and on my clothes , starting with my diapers. I'll doubtless ***** myself sometime during the day on one of the many life threatening encounters I'll have. I put on my camoflaughed pants and bullet proof vest and tuck in my pistol.

7 30am : Start the long arduos task of unlocking the steel door. Lift the beams , unpadlock the chains , pull out the bolts , punch in a code , turn the dials ....and take a deep breath. slowly push the door open with the rifle of the shot gun. Nobody in plain site. They must be preparing an ambush.

7 31 am : I give the orders to my neighbor and car pool friend on the walkie talkie. In unison with a "go ! go ! go !" we raid our lawns like a blitzkrieg diving first behind our strategically placed sandbags. We let out a few rounds at any bushes before getting into the car.

"Where's your wife ?" I ask him.

"She took a particular bad raping last night , she's calling in sick. I hope she doesn't have aids. Do you know Thabo Mbeki thinks aids can be cured with garlic ?" He tells me.

"I sure do , did she take a shower ?"

We laugh. Ah , the strange but rare and fleeting sensation of laughter. I'd almost forgotten I was capable of it.

"How're the kids ? " I ask him.

"Little timmy took a bullet , but the few we have left are all still alive. Freakish luck. "

"Yes, I say , mine are alive too. It's been a good week. A few cousins hacked to death with machetes , but nothing that would make the papers."

Our chit chat is interupted by the familiar whistle of mortars coming in. We speed off.

7 47 : Arrive at work attracting hardly any gun fire or driving over anyone whose fallen in the streets because of aids. Did you know , 2 out of every 1 South Africans has contracted aids at least 5 times ? We make it into the office.

8 am : Role call. The boss comes in checks to see who has made it to work alive. We've lost a secretary but not one with big tits , so there's all round relief.

8 30 : The electricty comes on for a brief few minutes. The boss runs out excitedely ringing his bell.."Quickly he says !!! To the computers while we have the chance !!!" ...After a few moments we recover from the shock of having elecricity we rush down to the fireman poles and slide down to the computer room. We quickly finish our work (there's not much to do since the south african economy has entirely collpased ) so we use this precious time to go on youtube and spread the negative truth about South Africa on any videos we can find. I find one of a tourist who thinks they had a nice time in south Africa but quickly correct them and warn anyone from coming lest they want to commit suicide.

10 : 30 : Lose my job to a black person again. Shrug my shoulders. I'm to blame for complaining when my black boss tied me to the wagon wheel and whipped me. I also didn't fellate him nearly as enthusiastically as he demands. I should know better.

11 : 00 am : As I'm arming myself to go home my boss says he can't wait for Mandela to die so that he can kill white people legally. He promises to first kill my children and make me watch while he performs satanistuic rituals with their hearts and drinks their blood. I think him for his relatively kind words. He's not as bad as other black people.

11 30 am : I'm murdered and become a silent statistic.

Yeah, SA is horrible. The above will happen to you, in each and every square meter corner of SA. Doesn't matter if you are in the middle of the Kalahari or the middle of Soweto. Thugs will jump out from behind the nearest rock or bush and rip your guts out, rape your dog and strangle your cat with your guts. Right?

 

[Skinner]

Originally Posted by LancelotSA View Post
Kind of funny how the increased number of people selling and giving the reason as emigration seems to correlate perfectly with the rising interest rates.

Some people just find it easier to blame crime than admitting they cannot handle their finances properly. I know three individuals who are leaving as they are battling here, through their own bad decisions, and see the grass as being greener! Two of these are using the fact that if they up and leave they can get their hands on their provident fund money when they resign as a further motivating factor!!

Any excuse apart from the real facts will suit you fine. Live in your own dreamworld of the perfect SA. None of these bad things is true, we are all just hallucinating.

Erm, he is actually correct, many people in financial trouble are letting their houses default to the banks and quitting their jobs to get their hands on their provident funds as a last resort to keep that new BMW parked in the driveway for 2 or 3 more months, and then sell it and go overseas. It is no joke and it is happening. People are desperate. The Jones' need to be impressed until the last possible second.
Problem is, they go overseas with very little money, and they soon find out their Rands are worthless overseas, then return to SA, back to square one

 

[Skinner]

A pal of mine who left for UK 2 yrs ago is coming back. He says cost of living wise its better to live here! He's an Asset Mgr

Erm... duh. That's what we've established already in this thread, and it's common knowledge. SA is still very cheap compared to other 1st world countries. And London is the most expensive city in the world, after Moscow.

 

[lion_fish]

and it's common knowledge. SA is still very cheap compared to other 1st world countries.

SA is not that cheap at all anymore. Maybe a while ago, but looking at prices online now and comparing to UK/Europe, you lot are getting shafted left, right and centre...

And London is the most expensive city in the world, after Moscow.

Yeah, because everyone who moves to the UK MUST live in London...

 

[onebrickshort]

SA is not that cheap at all anymore. Maybe a while ago, but looking at prices online now and comparing to UK/Europe, you lot are getting shafted left, right and centre...


Yeah, because everyone who moves to the UK MUST live in London...

Supermarket food prices in SA are now pretty similiar to those in the UK and Spain and probably other EU countries too... Woolies here is the same as Marks and Sparks pricewise.

Incidently, Dublin is 20% more expensive than London as a place to live.

 

[Skinner]

SA is not that cheap at all anymore. Maybe a while ago, but looking at prices online now and comparing to UK/Europe, you lot are getting shafted left, right and centre...

BEEEEEP. FAIL.
Petrol in SA: R10/l
Petrol in Europe: R20/l
Steak in SA: R80
Steak in Europe: R120
We can go on. Name me anything and I'll give you the price in Europe. It is bound to be more expensive. With the exception of cars, but as I said earlier, the running costs of cars in Europe quickly squashes the money you save at purchase.

And to say that you earn more in Europe, also is a myth, since while you do earn more, your netto take-home pay gets squashed by strings of social taxes.

Yeah, because everyone who moves to the UK MUST live in London...

Well, most South Africans who moves to the UK, actually do go live in London.

 

[Skinner]

Supermarket food prices in SA are now pretty similiar to those in the UK and Spain and probably other EU countries too... Woolies here is the same as Marks and Sparks pricewise.

Ha! I'd like to see that.

I'm going to the groceries store later, I'll make a little list of what some typical things cost here.

 

[Turtle]

Ha! I'd like to see that.

I'm going to the groceries store later, I'll make a little list of what some typical things cost here.

I was in London last year and found the same thing, grocery prices worked out to be rather similar to what I'd normally pay in SA (some things were even cheaper, and stuff that was more expensive was usually better quality) ... that was before this year's big food inflation price spike too (our inflation rate is much higher than Europe).

 

[3G4me]

On CNN/SKY around a month ago they were reporting on food prices going mad, and they were showing a grocery store in Australia, and panned into a tray of 4 tomatoes, they were priced at $4.76.

Sounds VERY expensive to me. Don't know if it's limited to fresh produce or not... I think here we pay about R6.99 for the same thing.

 

[pos(t)er]

Petrol in SA: R10/l
Petrol in Europe: R20/l

Only an idiot would buy petrol if he can use the undeground or other public transport...

 

[onebrickshort]

Only an idiot would buy petrol if he can use the undeground or other public transport...

Not necessarily. London is awash with money. I was speaking to the minion of a Russian Ogliarch and the minion drives a Jeep Commander everywhere. His boss has just paid 60 million pounds for an apartment at 1 Hyde Park, sight unseen. Try and get First or Business class seats on UK airlines flying transatlantic - They're all booked/full/sold.

 

[Skinner]

Only an idiot would buy petrol if he can use the undeground or other public transport...

You think the public transport costs peanuts? Ha.
Besides, if you want to compare same living standard in Europe with SA, for which you had the use of a car for in SA (and all the advantages a car offers), you have to look at fuel costs in Europe too. Period.

 

[pos(t)er]

NO, you have to compare transport(which are the function cars serve.)

Of course it's not free to use, but if u never bought a car in the 1st place u can hardly complain.

 

[DagegeN]

Petrol in SA: R10/l
Petrol in Europe: R20/l
Steak in SA: R80
Steak in Europe: R120

BEEP Fail !!!
Dont generalize the entire EU ... rather say that those are the prices in your area.
Where i am in South West Germany
Fuel is Routhly R17-R18/l
And a 200g steak is 15Euro thats makes is a whopping R180 for a 200g "big one here" steak with a small portion of chips.
And a 500ml buddy Coke is roughly R16.2 and you get R1.20 back as deposit.

Saffers you are living in the lap of lux. "EXCLUDING CRIME AND OTHER BAD THINGS" but in general we have a better quality of living in SA.

 

[lion_fish]

but in general we have a better quality of living in SA.

You and Skinner can keep telling yourself that...