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TMoose

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I think anybody who can afford to get out should do it. You could always come back later, and the experience is priceless. Lived overseas myself for a while and had an absolute blast.

To be honest I just don't get these endlessly optimistic people trying to justify living here. Read the entire thread and they came off as really, really, really annoying.
 
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I don't advocate optimism. If you feel you need to go, then go. I won't advise anyone to stay here with the kuk that goes on.

For me it is all about how much kuk I am prepared to put up with. I am quite happy with my QOL (Quality Of Life) here in SA. There is kuk in every country. Anyone who thinks that NZ and Aus are problem free are in serious need of a good shake-up. Besides, I would only move there as an absolute last resort....

Just requires being a lot more careful but otherwise I am having a blast.
 
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What? What? what?

NZ does have crime, every does. In fact its in the middle of a crime wave.

My personal favorite of NZ crime


Gun threats prompted AOS callout
By KAY BLUNDELL - The Dominion Post | Tuesday, 22 July 2008

Armed police surrounded a house in Otaki Beach this afternoon after a man threatened to shoot his dog and then turn his gun on himself.

Otaki police were contacted around midday by a woman concerned about a male friend.

By 12.30pm, officers from Otaki and members of the armed offenders squad from Palmerston North were at the scene at the corner of Rangiuru Rd and Marine Pde.

They surrounded the house and cordoned off several hundred metres of streetfront.

The man surrended and the scene was cleared by about 3pm.

No injuries were reported.
 
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TooFastTim said:
Pray enlighten us oh wise one.
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I am sure Australia's problems are nowhere near as bad as ours. However, they are having some of their own race problems, There is a lot of bad feeling with the new Asian immigrants and it is also apparent that there are a large number of people in Aussie with racist tendencies (which our cricketers will vouch for). The fact that they supported the invasion of Iraq will also cause them more problems down the road.

Still a good country to live in.
 
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Turiko said:
Actually let me go one step further- I will PM you my brother's e-mail address and he can tell you the whole spiel of how wonderful NZ isn't. Direct from NZ
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No, you made a statement on a public forum, now back it up with references on the same forum.
 
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I am not in NZ so I cannot comment about that country. However maybe I should tell dear old brother to sign up and post here and give you what you are looking for
 
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Turiko said:
I am not in NZ so I cannot comment about that country. However maybe I should tell dear old brother to sign up and post here and give you what you are looking for
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Actually, thats not a bad idea. Could you possible ask him? I know some people who'd be interested.
 
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Turiko said:
I am not in NZ so I cannot comment about that country.
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But you did.

Not being in a country does not disqualify you from making observations or even judgements about that country. However one would expect a reasonable degree of experience to back up any observation or judgment. This does not include a 2 week "look-see". Hearsay should be justified by references.

Having lived here for the past two years my observations are that NZ is not a perfect society. But it ain't far off. From an econonmic perspect NZ tends to rely too much on it's agricultural expertese. It is the most productive food producing nation (per capita) in the world. This is to the exclusion of other expertese. When I lived in SA I was fortunate to have been involved in what is arguably SA sciences flagship (this was before SALT). And what is going on here leaves me breathless. However it is flawed. There is a world leading company here (in Auckland) and they're going to come short. Soon.

Crime. Stupid stuff. Graffitti is a problem in some regions. It is the thin end of the wedge. The police here are hamstrung by PC'ness. It's not as bad as the UK but if left unchecked it could get that bad. Drugs. Yup. Predominently in the poorer areas. Gangs, not really a problem. There's some evidence of Chinese gangs operating here but they stick to the Chinese community. See an earlier post of mine.

Education: Fantastic. NZ and Aus are joint 4th best in the world for maths & science education. 'Nuff said. Free too.

Healthcare. People bitch here but overall it's pretty good. State healthcare here is as good as private in SA. There are some cases where the state pharmaceutical body is (IMO) too tardy in accepting certain drugs. Free too.

Respect for the law is great (one factor that drove me out of SA). No quibbles. You transgress you pay the fine or do the time. Period. No bleating about it was x's fault. You will get caught too.

Roads. Brilliant. I have never seen a pothole. Litter? What's that? Homeless people? Beggers? Nope.

Tax, slightly less than SA but see what you get for your buck?
 
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Tax, slightly less than SA but see what you get for your buck?
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Dream on dude... I saw my brother's financial affairs. I am paying lots less tax in good ole SA than he is..

I can't see how 51% is considered less than in SA....
 
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Dream on dude... I saw my brother's financial affairs. I am paying lots less tax in good ole SA than he is..

I can't see how 51% is considered less than in SA....
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WHAT? I'm on maximum and I pay 39% on the last 10K.
 
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Thank you Gerhard.

You know I'm getting a bit gatvol of these laaities that think they can sprout some kuk and we must all bow down in awe of their superior knowledge. The same people that say "If you leave you have no rights to criticise". What rubbish. The same people that tell me I should have adjusted my attitude after being unemployed for 2 years. What fascile little pimples. Have a look at "unemployment" on the stress gauge children. It rates up there with "death (self)".

Grow up children. It's a big world out there. Stop prostrating yourself at the alter of the govt (Nat or ANC) and start asking questions. Start thinking for yourself as opposed to sprouting the govt/HCR propoganda. Turiko and Skinner, you're just like the guys with whom I was at school , I avoided military service (crucial skills category) and they hated me at the time. But you know what? When they'd finished they all said I was right.

How come you laaities can sprout *** and I must defend (or in this case Gerhard)? Hmm?
 
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