Who is your favourite current SA cricket player?

Devill

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Mine is AB de Villiers. I just get very upset when he doesn't score runs as he is one of the most talented players in world cricket IMO.

(would have gone with Mackie if his wife was at every game :p)
 

killadoob

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Ab albie and Gibbs, would love to see albie open the batting in one day games, nice hard ball, fielders in the ring.

Could be the new jayasuria.
 

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Ab albie and Gibbs, would love to see albie open the batting in one day games, nice hard ball, fielders in the ring.

Could be the new jayasuria.

Mmmm just when I thought you knew little about cricket you come up with something like this. :p

That would be interesting, come to think of it that could be very very affective :)
 

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Why would albie opening be stupid? He loves hitting the ball, he reminds me alot of jayasuria who is a legend as an opener, if he got runs you knew the score was going to be massive.

So just explain to me why a clean hitter like albie should not start his innings off with very few fielders outside the ring? If i know so little please enlighten me as to why albie would not be an amazing opener? Is there some reason i cannot see? He is not a pinch hitter like many lower down the order in other teams, he takes time to get going, he does not come and swing wildly at every delivery. He is a big clean powerful hitter and not some i hope i don't go out huge swinging slogger. He times and middles so many deliveries i think he would devastating as an opener, but then again i know very little.
 
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Why would albie opening be stupid? He loves hitting the ball, he reminds me alot of jayasuria who is a legend as an opener, if he got runs you knew the score was going to be massive.

So just explain to me why a clean hitter like albie should not start his innings off with very few fielders outside the ring? If i know so little please enlighten me as to why albie would not be an amazing opener? Is there some reason i cannot see?

I would venture a guess that maybe he struggles a bit with the new ball.
 

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Why would albie opening be stupid? He loves hitting the ball, he reminds me alot of jayasuria who is a legend as an opener, if he got runs you knew the score was going to be massive.

So just explain to me why a clean hitter like albie should not start his innings off with very few fielders outside the ring? If i know so little please enlighten me as to why albie would not be an amazing opener? Is there some reason i cannot see? He is not a pinch hitter like many lower down the order in other teams, he takes time to get going, he does not come and swing wildly at every delivery. He is a big clean powerful hitter and not some i hope i don't go out huge swinging slogger. He times and middles so many deliveries i think he would devastating as an opener, but then again i know very little.

You talking to yourself?

I agreed that he could be a great opener.

Maybe read before posting;)
 
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Boucher.

I always feel less anxious if he is in the thick of things.
 

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Albie is better when facing the old ball. Besides with us having a batting power play he will come in and have lots of room outside the the ring.

Opening may be a option in the subcontinent were there isn't much swing or movement and the ball comes on better when opening but I certainly won't open with him in SA,Aus or Eng.
 

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Mmmm just when I thought you knew little about cricket you come up with something like this. :p I am implying that killadoob's comment is outrageous

That would be interesting, come to think of it that could be very very affective :) I am not sure if i am agreeing with him or telling him it would not work as i have made 2 statements.


Vero why would he struggle with the new ball though, with his power that new ball would fly and travel off the bat if you ask me, but we will never see the day, i like gibbs so much because he looks to score and score fast and is an awesome opening batsmen but at 35 his days are numbered :).

Why can jayasuria hit fast runs on any ground if the new ball is such a problem? does gibbs and smith not have problems with the new ball? All opening batsmen have trouble with the new ball unless you guys know of someone who never struggles with the new ball when its moving around?
 
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Vero why would he struggle with the new ball though, with his power that new ball would fly and travel off the bat if you ask me, but we will never see the day, i like gibbs so much because he looks to score and score fast and is an awesome opening batsmen but at 35 his days are numbered :).

The new ball moves around a lot more and have steeper bounce. There are lots of great batsmen that do not like facing the new ball.
 

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Has albie said he does not like the new ball? has he ever opened the batting?

Guess my logic tells me every batsmen struggles with the new ball moving around but i would love to see an albie type player opening with the only goal being fast run rate.
 

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Vero why would he struggle with the new ball though, with his power that new ball would fly and travel off the bat if you ask me, but we will never see the day, i like gibbs so much because he looks to score and score fast and is an awesome opening batsmen but at 35 his days are numbered :).

Why can jayasuria hit fast runs on any ground if the new ball is such a problem? does gibbs and smith not have problems with the new ball? All opening batsmen have trouble with the new ball unless you guys know of someone who never struggles with the new ball when its moving around?

Whats Jayasuria's average in ODIs just for interest sake?

And it is true what they are saying Killa sometimes a batsman is much better in some streches of the game than in others.

Ps It is not my problem if you struggle to see the diffs between sarcasm and agreement :p
 

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I know that but albie is not exactly a veteran of the SA team so we cannot be sure what he is capable of :). I think cricket selectors stick to good old fashioned cricket instead of trying something a bit out there like the sri lankens did when they opened with jayasuria :). All you need if you open is a powerful clean hitter which albie is and i cannot see how he would struggle. Bat on ball boundry and like i said albie does not only know how to smash shots he can play elegant shots.

http://profiles.cricket.123india.com/sri_lanka/players/sanath_jayasuriya/

32 average, not bad for a guy who's only goal is smash 4's and 6's in the first 15 :). Even if he only get 32 your off to a flier in terms of run rate. I fell sorry for him though because it seemed alot of the time if he failed to score the entire team followed suit.
 
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Has albie said he does not like the new ball? has he ever opened the batting?

Guess my logic tells me every batsmen struggles with the new ball moving around but i would love to see an albie type player opening with the only goal being fast run rate.

I did say it's only a guess, but I agree with you. Having Albie open could be a very interesting experiment
 

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I know that but albie is not exactly a veteran of the SA team so we cannot be sure what he is capable of :). I think cricket selectors stick to good old fashioned cricket instead of trying something a bit out there like the sri lankens did when they opened with jayasuria :). All you need if you open is a powerful clean hitter which albie is and i cannot see how he would struggle. Bat on ball boundry and like i said albie does not only know how to smash shots he can play elegant shots.

http://profiles.cricket.123india.com/sri_lanka/players/sanath_jayasuriya/

32 average, not bad for a guy who's only goal is smash 4's and 6's in the first 15 :). Even if he only get 32 your off to a flier in terms of run rate. I fell sorry for him though because it seemed alot of the time if he failed to score the entire team followed suit.


Thought so.

Any couch would rather have his team win 75% of their games with boring cricket than 50% of their games with "slog and moer" cricket.

But like I said its worth a try with albie in at opener.
 

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No it was just the sri lankens went through a phase in as much as they did not have more 2 or 3 quality batsmen, similar to brian lara at one stage, when he failed the whole team failed :). If albie fails you have about 6-7 good batsmen still to come :p, anyways no point discussing something SA cricket would never try :) :p

Just wondering though how many games South africa have been won with this so called slog and moer. I can remember alot of games where big hitting tail enders have won games for us that otherwise looked lost :p i got a feeling they would never open with him because he has saved our skins so much hehe. Look at kluesener how many times he pulled us out the kuk with his slogg and moer tactics. Albie is not a slog and moer kind of guy, Roelolf is a slogg and moere kinda guy :)
 
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No it was just the sri lankens went through a phase in as much as they did not have more 2 or 3 quality batsmen, similar to brian lara at one stage, when he failed the whole team failed :). If albie fails you have about 6-7 good batsmen still to come :p, anyways no point discussing something SA cricket would never try :) :p

Just wondering though how many games South africa have won with this so called slog and moer. I can remember alot of games were big hitting tail enders have won games for us that otherwise looked lost :p

lol, yes and those same big hitters would have 10-1 been undone with the new ball.

Old ball easier to face than the new ball = FACT.
 
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