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Sign up with GoogleWho Owns South Africa?
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IamCanadian
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The first nations of course. If you tell that to white Canadians they bristle.
Unfortunately he does not practise what he preach and the constitution means nothing to them. It can be changed and altered at will as the ANC pleases
No, the constitution cannot be changed at will. The guardians of the constitution is the Constitutional Court, and as such they can prevent unconstitutional changes being made to the constitution.
Sorry I must be in denial re the recent issues of floor crossings, constitutional laws that take away the right of anyone not black and the cape management afairs. The constitutional court means nothing if they are precribed by the government as with Icasa is the case
Like the invader flora in SA, its all being or has been or has been removed. Table Mountain, Pilgims Rest etc etc
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Um excuse me: the black people of South Africa are as much invaders as anybody else.
More Orwellian Double Speak Propaganda. Please get your history straight.
The Bushmen probably became the first modern people to migrate to the southern tip of the African continent. Skilled hunter-gatherers and nomads, the Bushmen had great respect for the land, and their lifestyle had low environmental impact, allowing them to sustain their way of life for years without leaving much archaeological evidence. Other than a series of striking rock paintings, the Bushmen left few traces of their early culture. Attempts to analyse the existing samples by radiocarbon dating indicate that the Bushmen lived in the area of modern-day South Africa at least as early as 25,000 years ago, and possibly as early as 40,000 years ago. Small numbers of Bushmen still live in South Africa today, making their culture one of the oldest continuously existing in the world, along with that of the Indigenous Australians.
Ancient history
Around 2,500 years ago Bantu peoples migrated into Southern Africa from the Niger River Delta. The Bushmen and the Bantu lived mostly peacefully together, although since neither had any method of writing, researchers know little of this period outside of archaeological artefacts.
History of South Africa
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We all own the world. Its rather a silly concept thinking that anyone particular group or another actually "owns" a part of the world that we all live on. Creating imaginary lines in the ground does not subtract away from the fact that we are all in this together.
I still think that every constitutional amendment should require a referendum to pass (after getting it's 2/3rds in parliament)
Solid idea in theory. To consider-
* Expense of referendums - really darn expensive!!
* Instability caused by referendums
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They didn't believe in ownership of land, too bad most of them are dead anyway.
Sure - but the expense should get parliament to think twice before trying to amend the constitution - get it right already
And the requirement that it gets passed by parliament first should hopefully do away with most of the instability - ie the referendum would simply confirm that the elected representatives are doing what the people want before it is too late and we have a changed constitution
Quite right.
kilps the problem with referendums is that they tend to divide the country into "us/them", and as we all know the way the cookie usually crumbles in SA is that the "us/them" distinction usually falls along racial lines. Not good.
To build on the "instability" aspect- we must keep in mind that this is a violent country. People do get attacked (and murdered) for their political beliefs, particularly at election times. Political intimidation is very real in certain regions of the country.
Just things to consider. I don't have an opinion, haven't thought about enough angles/considerations as yet.
The Alternative? Blanket change or reform as the ANC pleases?
I'm not disagreeing with you about the problems with holding a referendum ... but I do think that it is unwise to simply trust our MPs with the constitution
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So who were you really trying to quote? Me or this richard guy?
Kingrob talks about himself in 3rd person...so he was saying that he owns South Africa
Someone is clearly lacking in culture because they havent watched the great masterpiece called Robin Hood: Men in Tights