Who should coach the boks 2016 - 2019 (Poll)

Who would you appoint as the next Boks' coach?

  • Heyneke Meyer

    Votes: 6 8.2%
  • Pieter de Villiers

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Johann Ackerman

    Votes: 19 26.0%
  • Eddie Jones

    Votes: 28 38.4%
  • Nick Mallett

    Votes: 14 19.2%
  • Other - post your choice

    Votes: 4 5.5%

  • Total voters
    73

Noob-Noob

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Jake white brought back a lot of experienced players when he got the job. That is what I mean. At least Morney can kick his goals.

Pollard's kicking accuracy was 76% in the WC, it was not wonderful but also really not that bad. lets also not forget he was the second highest point scorer in the WC.
I like MS, he has always been very consistent and you know what you are getting. But i think Pollard offers us more.
 

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Pollard's kicking accuracy was 76% in the WC, it was not wonderful but also really not that bad. lets also not forget he was the second highest point scorer in the WC.
I like MS, he has always been very consistent and you know what you are getting. But i think Pollard offers us more.

When you have a good attacking Flyhalf. Kicking is second on the list. You don't pick a kicker and then a squad. You pick a squad and then from that squad you select a kicker. We need an attacking flyhalf now more than a person who can kick 90% of his kicks.
 

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When you have a good attacking Flyhalf. Kicking is second on the list. You don't pick a kicker and then a squad. You pick a squad and then from that squad you select a kicker. We need an attacking flyhalf now more than a person who can kick 90% of his kicks.

I agree, that's why i'm saying who is better than Pollard?
 

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I agree, that's why i'm saying who is better than Pollard?

I don't know. Jantjies is a very good attacking flyhalf but I don't think he's better than Pollard. Pollard had a good RWC given the team that was picked around him.
 

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I agree, that's why i'm saying who is better than Pollard?

Since there is a big push to enter RWC 2019 with a 50/50 squad based on colour we may need to look beyond our current Springbok Flyhalves. Just saying, and should it be the case that SARU will be pushing this plan then it must already be in progress starting with next year to get these players picked on merit.
 

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Since there is a big push to enter RWC 2019 with a 50/50 squad based on colour we may need to look beyond our current Springbok Flyhalves. Just saying, and should it be the case that SARU will be pushing this plan then it must already be in progress starting with next year to get these players picked on merit.

Pollard is still a laaitie. He'll still be around in 4 years for sure.
 

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I don't know. Jantjies is a very good attacking flyhalf but I don't think he's better than Pollard. Pollard had a good RWC given the team that was picked around him.

Considering him will also put Coleman on the table up to be selected into a Springbok training squad. You need to watch Elton play in the Top League, the game allows him with much better attacking options as the teams play with pace.
 

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Since there is a big push to enter RWC 2019 with a 50/50 squad based on colour we may need to look beyond our current Springbok Flyhalves. Just saying, and should it be the case that SARU will be pushing this plan then it must already be in progress starting with next year to get these players picked on merit.

Flyhalf will be Curwin Bosch.
 

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Pollard is still a laaitie. He'll still be around in 4 years for sure.

Between all our good Flyhalves, Pollard is the only laaitie. All the other players which are likely to be selected are in their mid-twenties like Lambie which is 25 iirc. Elton is also 25 iirc. Being 29 is still prime to play in a RWC, the question is only how much these players has improved on their previous experience which is where assistant/specialist coaches and management has a large role to play and also the union in which the players are active.

Personally I believe that SARU and their unions are disconnected, they need to work together to grow the national teams.
 

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Is he staying with EP?

EDIT: I didn't see him in action, but I didn't note any young talent at WP to play in that position.
After the SA games he got bought by the Sharks... He starts there after the matric exams.
 

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After the SA games he got bought by the Sharks... He starts there after the matric exams.

I can only hope that the Sharks will mould him accordingly. Because… well… The Sharks play like the Springboks.
 

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Flyhalf will be Curwin Bosch.

The young flyhalf prodigy?, if memory serves correctly the same song was sang about a certain Earl Rose.

I'll stick with Pollard until someone really proves me otherwise.
 

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Glad to see England had enough sense to sign Eddie Jones, SA Rugby should have jumped and signed him for the Boks after the WC. Big loss for SA Rugby.
Now i'll stick with HM.
 

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From rugby365.com

Would this really be the worst thing?

COETZEE THE NEW BOK COACH?

rugby365 has reliably learnt that Heyneke Meyer has lost the support of the majority of South Africa's provincial unions and will be replaced at the General Council meeting of the South African Rugby Union on December 11.

SARU has already postponed, by a week, to 11 December, their General Council meeting. It will be proceeded by a meeting of the Executive Council on 9 December.

Current team manager Ian Schwartz, who has been employed as a permanent staff member of SARU, has flown to Japan to speak to former Bok assistant coach and Stormers coach Allister Coetzee to take over the national team.

Coetzee has an exit clause in his contract with Kobelco Steelers - the club he coaches in the Japanese Top League.

It is uncertain at this stage what will happen to the rest of Meyer's coaching staff - which include Ricardo Loubscher (backline), Johann van Graan (forwards), Pieter de Villiers (scrum) John McFarland (defence) and Basil Carzis (conditioning).

It is known that Van Graan has thrown his name into the Stormers coaching hat - a list that also includes John Mitchell (the apparently runaway leader in that race), John Dobson, Brendan Venter, Gert Smal, Robbie Fleck, Paul Treu, Frans Ludeke and Jerome Paarwater.

The Stormers and Southern Kings are the only franchises who have not finalised their coaching set-ups for 2016.

However, the Kings will be run by SARU - which means the national body's mobi unit is likely to fill the coaching position in Port Elizabeth.

The biggest gripe against Meyer has been that the Springboks have not progressed, but rather digressed, in the past four years.

There are also issues surrounding transformation that some of the political animals in the SARU structures.

In a recent poll on rugby365 newly appointed England coach Eddie Jones beat off all challengers as the readers' choice of a new Bok coach - with 19.03 percent of the votes.

However, he is out of the running.

Coetzee, the man that will tick SARU's transformation box (like Peter de Villiers did in 2008), came in seventh with just 3.87 percent of the votes.

Others high on the readers' wishlist include Nick Mallett (18.22 percent, second), Meyer (13.7 percent, third), Johan Ackermann (12.3 percent, fourth) and John Mitchell (5.97 percent, fifth).
 

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Strange nobody has mentioned Robbie Deans.....

Just to add to that, his Japanese team "Panasonic Wild knigts" are doing very very well in the Top League.

I changed my on my original vote, Deans FTW :D
 
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Looks like it's all over the NZ press as pretty much a done deal

FFS, How will Coetzee do any better than HM when HM has achieved so much more as a coach. I honestly cant stand the politics in SA Rugby.
I rate Coetzee much higher than Pieter De Villiers, but he is a paloeka compared to guys like Eddie Jones, Nick Mallet, Gatland, Hansen, Robbie Deans....
 

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FFS, How will Coetzee do any better than HM when HM has achieved so much more as a coach. I honestly cant stand the politics in SA Rugby.
I rate Coetzee much higher than Pieter De Villiers, but he is a paloeka compared to guys like Eddie Jones, Nick Mallet, Gatland, Hansen, Robbie Deans....

All great coaches. But who in their right mind would want to coach here, given that they'd have to do it with their metaphorical one hand tied behind their back?
 
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