Who will win the US elections this year?

Who will win the US elections this year?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 188 53.9%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 64 18.3%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 97 27.8%

  • Total voters
    349
Trump is very popular with the working class
I've never understood why this is. Historically the "commoner" wouldn't care for some rich dude that's never worked a real job in his life. The common American is weird though.
 
I've never understood why this is. Historically the "commoner" wouldn't care for some rich dude that's never worked a real job in his life. The common American is weird though.
That's true. And somehow he is the Christian choice as well. WTAF. A casino operating, porn start banging adulterer.
 
Its like history is repeating itself if we compare now to the 1930s.

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Russia’s conduct in Ukraine since 2014 has demonstrated how what starts as a limited incursion into a disputed territory can become an effort to erase an entire nation. Recent events in the Middle East remind us of how even an economically feeble revisionist, Iran, can cultivate proxies capable of throwing the region into chaos. In East Asia, China is conducting what one US admiral calls “the largest military buildup in history since World War II.” These states make no secret of their desire to rearrange the regions around them and upend a world long structured by American power. They still have some distance to go: The fact that the front lines of the US-China competition are in the Taiwan Strait, not the Central Pacific, and that the contest between Russia and the West is occurring in Ukraine, not Central Europe, testifies to the achievements of the present order. But to assume this system is immune to the strains being exerted upon it is to risk being surprised, once again, by how quickly things fall apart.

The authoritarian powers make awkward partners. Iran, Russia and China aren’t formal allies. Historically, they have been rivals more often than friends. Even today, a China that ultimately dominates Eurasia might menace Russia and Iran more severely than it menaces America. But this isn’t much reason for reassurance, because a second lesson is that even an ambivalent alliance of totalitarian states can set the world aflame.

The Axis powers — Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Fascist Italy —never trusted one another. As historian Williamson Murray wrote, they were united mainly by their desire “to steal as much of the world as possible.” Had they succeeded, the towering ambitions and toxic racism that motivated these countries surely would have condemned them, eventually, to a fratricidal falling-out. Even so, one of history’s most dysfunctional partnerships created deeply destabilizing effects."
 
And its not unique to them, Germany and France is moving anti immigrant, with East Block European countries has an enter and we will shoot you policy. High crime rates from foreigners, terrorism threats, standing against their national ideals.
Its in fact just as big a problem here I remember vividly like around 15 years ago South Africa had a border problem already. I remember it coupled with the xenophobia issues, so the situation probably got worse as timed went on. We only have bigger fish to fry now, so nobody is focusing on it.
 
Im not for much of US politics or left .vs right. .etc or other divisive political dividers that cause stranger to spit and swear at eachother.

But this Biden oke looks like a puppet, I mean the guy clearly is clearly not all there mentally. There must be others pulling his strings.
 
Russia’s conduct in Ukraine since 2014 has demonstrated how what starts as a limited incursion into a disputed territory can become an effort to erase an entire nation.
:ROFL: You mean Isreal's incursion into Palestine, right? Got your countries mixed up there mate.

/disclaimer I am not the most politically up to date with others countries poltics.
 
That's true. And somehow he is the Christian choice as well. WTAF. A casino operating, porn start banging adulterer.
I think that's not really out of choice though, those right wing outspoken Christian leaders are kind of forced into supporting their party's candidate. In the end it's all about money and maintaining political favour.
 
But this Biden oke looks like a puppet, I mean the guy clearly is clearly not all there mentally. There must be others pulling his strings.
I think they replaced him with a robot a while back and they haven't quite ironed out the kinks with the AI language model they're using yet.
 
I've never understood why this is. Historically the "commoner" wouldn't care for some rich dude that's never worked a real job in his life. The common American is weird though.
I think it is because his policies involved bettering their lives. I.E. create more jobs by building a border and deporting illegal immigrants, along with people not liking Hillary Clinton.
 
I've never understood why this is. Historically the "commoner" wouldn't care for some rich dude that's never worked a real job in his life. The common American is weird though.
Many people believe that what you see on TV is the American life, but its not. Its quite the opposite to what is portrayed. They are quiet people who loves the military, goes to church, loves their small town, cares to have a job and good schooling for their kids.

Nomadland is a good movie for you to watch. Thats the heart of America. They easily work 2-3 jobs to get their kids through school, etc. A lot doesnt actually have houses even. Its too expensive.

A lot of previously done American jobs are now being outsourced abroad, so the American industry that pushed the world forward after WW2 has fallen apart. Visiting Detroit you will notice. America's manufacturing areas has been shutting down and this has destroyed many a city and jobs. Instead manufacturing jobs has been changed to cheaper imports from abroad, with lower paid retail jobs.

But basically imagine the entire silicon valley shutting down and those engineers etc, had to find jobs as sales assistants etc. Yip then you will have an idea.

Now tech companies in the US are moving manufacturing back to the US, so are Tesla, Sony, Bosch, etc. Even the Taiwanese are moving a lot of their manufacturing to the US should Taiwan be invaded. Billions to Trillions of dollars in new investment.

America first is all you have to hear from Trump, then these workers with families will support him. Just look at how they respect their soldiers, then you may understand.
 
Oh today is their Independence Day. Its a big fanfare. 13 states defeated the British for US independence. They fought a mere 34 500 troops.

South Africa doesnt celebrate their Independence war that was actually the Boer War (South African Republic, Free State vs British Empire). And the Boers fought against a force about 11x the size the Americans fought against. Yip 374 000 British troops. And then I wont even mention the death camps/scorched earth used locally.

Read some Emily Hobhouse.
 
South Africa doesnt celebrate their Independence war that was actually the Boer War (South African Republic, Free State vs British Empire).
Probably something to do with who actually won the Boer war...
 
Probably something to do with who actually won the Boer war...
Actually although the British somehow did, at the end they lost SA due to what happened. That and the world's push to nationalism during the 1920s and 1930s. And then the imprisonment of Boers again during WW2 by the British.

But then 374 000 Military troops compared to 50 000 farmers, and the farmers did quite well mostly. They did win the 1st Boer War, but lost the 2nd Boer War.

"For Britain, the Second Boer War was the longest, the most expensive (£211 million, £19.9 billion at 2022 prices), and the bloodiest conflict between 1815 and 1914, lasting three months longer and resulting in more British combat casualties than the Crimean War (1853–1856)."
 
The British commander, Lord Kitchener, claimed his scorched earth policy was a military necessity and the camps were a kindness. Emily Hobhouse exposed their true nature after visiting the largest at Bloemfontein. 'It was a death-rate such as had never been known except in the times of the Great Plagues . . . the whole talk was of death - who died yesterday, who lay dying today, who would be dead tomorrow,' she wrote.
 
Trump is very popular with the working class. Thats the heart of the US. And he is actually correct in quite a few things. Ie why

That and the amount of illegals coming into the US. Literally people fly from all over the world into Mexico then marches across into the US, by the thousands daily.

And then there, is the attack on religion in the US. The Middle Class Christians has had enough. And sadly they are the voters. So if you watched Young Sheldon, pretty similar to the mom...
Trump has been president before. What did he do to resolve these problems if they are so clear?
 
Putin, Xi Jinping, and every other dictator in the world. In fact there are no winners in the current US election. The whole world will lose out. Kind of always knew American's where a bit dim on average but man are they pushing that hard these days. How on earth did we get to the point where these where the two candidates that won out to be the final 2.
 
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