I would have respected your statement , Lonegunman’s quote however points in the opposite direction. Read it and decide for yourselves…No, I don't know of any atheists who have tried to pin the holocaust on christians, it is known to have been caused by the Nazi's... irrespective of what their religious leanings were.
Which scientific journal did you get that quote on evolutionism from?..... because I definately disagree that evolutionism had anything to do with the Holocaust, or genocide in Africa.
QUOTE:Eugenics and Darwinism do not fit in to each other at all, even in the slighest....
Whichever way you cut it, that is not natural selection.QUOTE:
“In 1895 Alfred Ploetz had, as we have seen, introduced Social Darwinism into Germany and founded Racial Hygiene”
“They felt that the physically and mentally defective should be painlessly eliminated and demanded the nullification of the religious and legal barriers which stood in the way.”
Those would be the religious and legal barriers against MURDER.Mr TB said:As you can see , the above quotes dear origin of species –thumper it is clear that the religious is a barrier in obtaining the goals of darwinism and eugenics the hidden agenda.
Agreed. Admittedly as the years go by the 'debates' start to all 'look and feel' the same to me. For various reasons I nowadays just try to aim more for a "live and let live" philosophy (not entirely successfully though ).Cant we just all agree to disagree? .. Or at least discuss it rationally without the name calling and people bashing.
What's so bad about just letting people "be wrong". You call it "defending yourself" but that's not entirely accurate, because nobody is actually "attacking" you - we live in a (by typical Western standards) free society where anyone can practice (and preach) Christianity all they want. I can't remember when last anyone was killed or physically hurt for being Christian in SA, in fact I don't even know of any incidents of it. Christianity is not under attack here, in fact at +/- 60% of the population, and with churches on just about every other corner and Christian programming/services being most common on TV and with bibles in every hotel and with Christian holidays being very publicly celebrated etc., it's by far the dominant religion, if anything it's the opposing views that are 'on the defence'. Christianity isn't going anywhere soon. Of course freedom of speech of course allows us all to preach our opinions anyway, to a large degree. One sometimes encounters a bit of a martyr mentality though where people think their religion is "under attack", and I'm not sure where it really comes from (someone posting on a forum doesn't really qualify as much of an "attack" in my view, that's just expression, and we all get our say). On another note, it's interesting that most Eastern religions do not come with this "our religion is the only right one and everyone must be converted" mentality that you see so often with Christianity and Islam.Why defend ourselves ? The Bible says "The truth shall set you free" We all believe we posess the one and only truth.
In saying that, there can only be one truth. So, 99/100 are then wrong. In my opinion, Christ is the one and only Truth !
Of course not. We don't have to prove anything. People argue forWhy must we (as Christians) always prove to you that God exists?
Instead, please prove to me that God doesn't exist! (and 100% conclusive proof as is always asked of us)
The argument is not even about the existence of god.Of course not. We don't have to prove anything. People argue for
the sake of arguing but since their arguments are poor, they haven't
turned anyone away from religion. .
Yes i indeed agree with you and although i may seem like a rude bum sometimes i am learning to defend the faith. You will agree there are a lot of blatant lies concerning G-D thumped into this forums and nothing is said...We, as Christians, must set examples to the rest of the world.
This is very difficult, as the rest of the world won't understand why.
This also includes the task of telling other people about the Lord, and what He means for you. BUT it does NOT give you the right to FORCE your beliefs down other people's throats.
If they are not interested, let them be. After all, how would you feel if an agnostic, Wiccan, Pagan or whatever decides to force his/her belief onto you? Jesus did the same - He did not forced others to believe in Him, but simply proved by example.