Why MWeb is going to become better for you (If you didnt receive a mail)

[Syphonx]

He PMd me some nonsense about them fudging numbers in their adsl business unit which would not only make business news headlines, but would incur the wrath of investors. For what purpose?

I personally know one of the auditors responsible for the Naspers account and it's not true. Now if we were talking about exposure to Tencent then it might make more sense, but we're not...

And of course how do the other ISP's which charge less survive then? It's not like they offer worse service either.

 

[reactor_sa]

If you did not receive a mail about your usage the chances of you receiving another are even less now because capacity increasing from the people causing the problem decreasing.

Welcome to a better MWeb experience for you.

Remember they will only do this to you if they have to and with less "Power Users" they have even less reason to.

It simply means there will be a new group in the top 3%, who knows, it could be you next! Good luck chuck!

 

[Necuno]

It simply means there will be a new group in the top 3%, who knows, it could be you next! Good luck chuck!

Never. He, she or it doesn't download 24.7. Remember it only happens if you download 24.7 or watch HD.

 

[Seriously]

If you did not receive a mail about your usage the chances of you receiving another are even less now because capacity increasing from the people causing the problem decreasing.

Welcome to a better MWeb experience for you.

Remember they will only do this to you if they have to and with less "Power Users" they have even less reason to.

You really are working for Mweb don't you MwebGuy?

 

[Seriously]

Once they slice off the first 3%, they'll go for the next 3 and then the next 3 till profits are nice and healthy. OP is super naive.

OP is Mweb(Guy) IMHO. He is trying too hard to Justify Mweb's idiotic new AUP.

 

[KinsZA]

OP is Mweb(Guy) IMHO. He is trying too hard to Justify Mweb's idiotic new AUP.

My account predates MWebGuy's by about 5 years and if you dig through history you'll see me hitting MWeb pretty hard in the past for some of the things that have happened (Which for the record got sorted out fast).

If you fell among the people who's opinions I care about I'd go fetch that evidence myself but I don't, the evidence is there, though I doubt you'll bother looking.

 

[Necuno]

My account predates MWebGuy's by about 5 years and if you dig through history you'll see me hitting MWeb pretty hard in the past for some of the things that have happened (Which for the record got sorted out fast).

If you fell among the people who's opinions I care about I'd go fetch that evidence myself but I don't, the evidence is there, though I doubt you'll bother looking.

HI MWebGuy!

 

[plbartie]

If you did not receive a mail about your usage the chances of you receiving another are even less now because capacity increasing from the people causing the problem decreasing.

Welcome to a better MWeb experience for you.

Remember they will only do this to you if they have to and with less "Power Users" they have even less reason to.

All you've been doing is going on about how good mweb is, do you work for them?

 

[Rickster]

Multichoice have something to do with this.

If this is true what about people that (mostly) download games or series that is long off the air and reruns OR huge digital downloads from steam and origin why should we suffer.

Screw this, for the same amount of money I could get a 2Meg line from Afrihost Uncapped.

Cancelling next week and moving to Afri.

 

[Zewp]

HI MWebGuy!

More like KênsZA.

If this guy isn't Mweb Guy then he's simply another employee of theirs. Without a doubt.

 

[DJ...]

My account predates MWebGuy's by about 5 years and if you dig through history you'll see me hitting MWeb pretty hard in the past for some of the things that have happened (Which for the record got sorted out fast).

If you fell among the people who's opinions I care about I'd go fetch that evidence myself but I don't, the evidence is there, though I doubt you'll bother looking.

So in short:

MWEB is awesome. But they're not your current isp of choice.
You promise that they're really, really awesome.
You have evidence that they're awesome, but you're not going to provide it.
You defend them on every point until someone points out issues you cannot address. And then come back swinging later in the hope that everything in between is forgotten.

But you have no bias. Of course not. You must be a real dipschit vigilante. Or you're simply trying to troll everyone with your promises that you have no affiliation with MWEB, and your numerous threads and posts about how awesome they are, and that they're about to become, are genuine.

Nobody buys it. Your sense of compassion for their deceitful antics is blatant as the day is bright. I cannot for the life of me see someone witnessing a company lie blatantly to their customers' faces and then blame their customers, and then defend it without a vested interest.

Initially I tried to avoid supporting or perpetuating the accusations of you being an MWEB employee, but I can no longer discount such a blatantly obvious fact...

 

[ian_stagib]

This ^^^ +1

 

[KinsZA]

I dont work for MWeb or any other ISP and never have, I neither have nor had any trolling intentions.
With things how they are what I say I am basically makes no difference at all because people have made up their mind about what I am and "If he really did he wouldnt say" so really the above line is just for the record. I may as well at least try to sway you guys by explaining just how this has happened to you, the following is not a troll its psychology.

It all starts off with the "No way he'd be doing this unless he works for them" spark. That little thought on its own will lead you to create your own theory as to why the thought is possible. As your theory builds another thing you say will give ideas for even more. Take this example as to how, in my mind, the color green can make me think of an aeroplane.
Green - leaves - tree - wood - round - logs - early wheel - transport - cars - faster transport - aeroplane

Now you take the above and combine what a forum does which get like minded (to a point I guess) people to discuss a topic with Herd/Mob Mentality with brief except from wikipedia below

Herd mentality, or mob mentality, describes how people are influenced by their peers to adopt certain behaviors, follow trends, and/or purchase items

The end result is those of you who have decided who or what I am due to the side I choose to support if there even is a side will spur each other on until things have gone completely out of control and with me as the source I cant convince you otherwise because its like NASA saying that they did land someone onto the moon to a person who believes that it didn't happen.

You're either seething, thinking I'm a lunatic, laughing, ponder or a combination of most and really thats your choice but take another post as an example, the one where mweb is getting ripped for recycling peoples email addresses. If there was not such hate brought up by the earlier mails then it wouldn't have come up.

Take what I have just said or dont believe what you will or dont but in the end I've done what I can to try and make you believe what you will.

Good night and I hope you did not take offence to my words.

 

[DJ...]

Do me one favour and answer these questions honestly.

Did MWEB advertise no throttling?
Did MWEB in fact berate other companies for throttling?
Did MWEB benefit from their promotion of their product as unthrottled?
Did MWEB benefit from promoting their product as unthrottled in relation to their competitors?
Did MWEB advertise their premium products that people pay more for, for the purpose of downloading, streaming and general high usage purposes?
Does MWEB know the parameters they're measuring, or is it really an ad-hoc deduction?
If an ad-hoc deduction, how did they determine an exact 3% figure? Or, as someone who works in finance, any percentage?
MWEB continue to explicitly ask their customers to remain within reasonable limits. What are the reasonable limits?

 

[DJ...]

I dont work for MWeb or any other ISP and never have, I neither have nor had any trolling intentions.
With things how they are what I say I am basically makes no difference at all because people have made up their mind about what I am and "If he really did he wouldnt say" so really the above line is just for the record. I may as well at least try to sway you guys by explaining just how this has happened to you, the following is not a troll its psychology.

It all starts off with the "No way he'd be doing this unless he works for them" spark. That little thought on its own will lead you to create your own theory as to why the thought is possible. As your theory builds another thing you say will give ideas for even more. Take this example as to how, in my mind, the color green can make me think of an aeroplane.
Green - leaves - tree - wood - round - logs - early wheel - transport - cars - faster transport - aeroplane

Now you take the above and combine what a forum does which get like minded (to a point I guess) people to discuss a topic with Herd/Mob Mentality with brief except from wikipedia below



The end result is those of you who have decided who or what I am due to the side I choose to support if there even is a side will spur each other on until things have gone completely out of control and with me as the source I cant convince you otherwise because its like NASA saying that they did land someone onto the moon to a person who believes that it didn't happen.

You're either seething, thinking I'm a lunatic, laughing, ponder or a combination of most and really thats your choice but take another post as an example, the one where mweb is getting ripped for recycling peoples email addresses. If there was not such hate brought up by the earlier mails then it wouldn't have come up.

Take what I have just said or dont believe what you will or dont but in the end I've done what I can to try and make you believe what you will.

Good night and I hope you did not take offence to my words.

As much of a Freudian scholar as you think you are, nobody is about to bonk their metaphorical mothers over this. You're trying to prove your point by proving that everyone else is a blind sheep and that you're their saviour.

Irrespective of your over inflated self worth, none of that long waffle really pertains to the issues at hand. It's a common political practice to change goal posts but you really need some assistance to make it more fluid. Don't give up.

Until then, I shall continue to not really give two hoots about your biased woo as to how our psyches are influencing our behaviour. There is far more accomplished research on the matter than your opinion...

 

[KinsZA]

DJ - I had my answers for you all typed up then I saw your second post and well I have edited to remove them as I am not going to do you that favor anymore.

 

[DJ...]

Edit - Removed

So you admit that they lied; that they benefited from said lies; that they increased revenue on the back of this; and that they're reneging on their promises. So how can you defend them? I don't get it.

The fact that they provided specifics relating to percentages implies a defined set of parameters. So they either lied about the 3% or they continue to lie about the parameters. You don't strike me as a stupid person. You and I both know that they would not institute such an important and unpopular measure without anticipating the fallout. This requires set parameters. They're not sitting busy behind a PC making this schit up as we go along. Come on now...

 

[KinsZA]

So you admit that they lied; that they benefited from said lies; that they increased revenue on the back of this; and that they're reneging on their promises. So how can you defend them? I don't get it.

The fact that they provided specifics relating to percentages implies a defined set of parameters. So they either lied about the 3% or they continue to lie about the parameters. You don't strike me as a stupid person. You and I both know that they would not institute such an important and unpopular measure without anticipating the fallout. This requires set parameters. They're not sitting busy behind a PC making this schit up as we go along. Come on now...

DJ I never took a stand on ethics before as it was never my point, it was about own experience, the fact they are a business and people reading their terms.

I don't believe mweb went about this the right way at all though, from an ethical standpoint I am not with mweb, from a business perspective of why they have to limit users I am.

Take a look at how afrihost so their user management, if I was mweb I would be implementing that

 

[DJ...]

Why don't the ethics of the situation play a role? Surely they should?

All you're doing is stating that ISPs have to manage their network. Nobody has disputed this whatsoever. Of course they do. This is what sets an ISP apart. The objections raised have been those of integrity, morals and fair business ethics. Effectively what transpired is that MWEB agreed to a certain set of standards that they used to market their product. They're now reneging on said promises after having secured revenue on the back of this. That is just plain unethical, and illegal as far as I'm concerned.

You defended them on the basis of their Ts and Cs. That's nothing to be lauded. The fact that they promise and advertise one thing and then added a caveat to get them out of jail later down the line is just horrible business ethics. Nothing to be praised, and certainly nothing to be objected.

Bottom line is that you agree that their actions are despicable. Whether someone else does something similar is irrelevant. This isn't a school playground. Actions result in consequences. Nobody else however has reneged on such a promise, such makes the actions of MWEB even more despicable...

 

[Zewp]

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tl;dr

Go spew your pop psychology elsewhere

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I thought you were no longer going to do DJ the favor of responding to his posts. Why are you still here?