Why SA has a shortage of doctors and nurses

Jopie Fourie

Expert Member
Joined
Aug 30, 2019
Messages
2,251
Health Minister Dr Zweli Mkhize says the demand for health services in South Africa is increasing and funds to address the change are limited mainly due to the continuous rise of immigration and the increasing burden of disease.

Mkhize made the remarks in response to a parliamentary question from Freedom Front Plus MP Phillipus van Staden who asked him what the reasons were for the shortage of doctors and nurses in South African state hospitals.

In his response, Mkhize said: "The primary reasons why the Republic [of South Africa] has a shortage of doctors and nurses is the fact that the public health sector budget has not been increasing in real terms for the past 10 years, impacting on the number of staff that can be appointed.

"Furthermore, the demand for health services in the country is increasing while there is no additional funding to address the change, which results primarily from immigration and the increasing burden of disease.

 

ɹǝuuᴉM

Expert Member
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
3,604
I wonder why there is a shortage of money... What vehicle does she drive? On a per capita basis, South African (ANC) politicians are the 3th best paid in the world! Are they serving South Africans or are the South Africans serving them? This much for the liberation.
 

Hemi300c

Honorary Master
Joined
Dec 15, 2009
Messages
26,417
I wonder why there is a shortage of money... What vehicle does she drive? On a per capita basis, South African (ANC) politicians are the 3th best paid in the world! Are they serving South Africans or are the South Africans serving them? This much for the liberation.
They serving themselves and their family and cadres.
No interest in the people just their back pockets.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1

wbot

Executive Member
Joined
Aug 30, 2017
Messages
9,744
And these days they're failing their exams lol. Not to mention the anc is fahrking up education even further (like everything else they touch) which would greatly contribute to the shortage of health professionals in years to come.
 

Arthur

Honorary Master
Joined
Aug 7, 2003
Messages
26,882
The honourable minister's analysis and hence conclusion is flawed. SA has plenty of doctors and nurses - for people who are willing and able to pay for them. What we have a surfeit of is people who deemund that other people pay their medical expenses.
 

rietrot

Honorary Master
Joined
Aug 26, 2016
Messages
33,355
They should let more medical students in. Especially those that can pay for themselves.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1

MEIOT

Expert Member
Joined
Feb 27, 2018
Messages
2,847
The answer to this question is blatantly obvious. More especially obvious when you read about medical students failing hopelessly. The caliber of students are just not cut out for the field and admission into these universities are just piss easy for the majority.
3rd rate doctors being shite out these universities with exemption from all the usual norms that define a good enough pass.
I for one refuse to be treated by a 3rd rate doctor, as is my right.
 

rietrot

Honorary Master
Joined
Aug 26, 2016
Messages
33,355
The answer to this question is blatantly obvious. More especially obvious when you read about medical students failing hopelessly. The caliber of students are just not cut out for the field and admission into these universities are just piss easy for the majority.
3rd rate doctors being shite out these universities with exemption from all the usual norms that define a good enough pass.
I for one refuse to be treated by a 3rd rate doctor, as is my right.
Many people that I know of who should make it in don't. The criteria is ridiculously strict.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1

TheChamp

Honorary Master
Joined
Feb 26, 2011
Messages
57,515
Zimbabwean doctors are on strike, let's grab all of them, they will feel right at home here.
 

rietrot

Honorary Master
Joined
Aug 26, 2016
Messages
33,355
The honourable minister's analysis and hence conclusion is flawed. SA has plenty of doctors and nurses - for people who are willing and able to pay for them. What we have a surfeit of is people who deemund that other people pay their medical expenses.
There's definitely a shortage. My doctor that I pay for is always ridiculously busy and last year we visited some specialist who was also ridiculously busy running between operating and seeing patients with a waiting list a few months long for something rather urgent.

And the shortage of doctors just pushes up medical cost. R500 for a 10 min consultation.
 

Arthur

Honorary Master
Joined
Aug 7, 2003
Messages
26,882
There's definitely a shortage. My doctor that I pay for is always ridiculously busy and last year we visited some specialist who was also ridiculously busy running between operating and seeing patients with a waiting list a few months long for something rather urgent.
While anecdotal: my own experience is that I've never had to wait more than a day or so to see a specialist. I do distinguish between urgent and convenient.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1

rietrot

Honorary Master
Joined
Aug 26, 2016
Messages
33,355
While anecdotal: my own experience is that I've never had to wait more than a day or so to see a specialist. I do distinguish between urgent and convenient.
Anyway the state shouldn't control how much medical professionals we train. Open it up to the market.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1

thestaggy

Honorary Master
Joined
May 11, 2011
Messages
21,147
"The weight that foreign nationals are bringing to the country has got nothing to do with xenophobia … it's a reality.

"Our hospitals are full, we can't control them. When a woman is pregnant and about to deliver a baby you can't turn her away from the hospital and say you are a foreign national … you can't."

Au contraire, Rodney, au contraire.

A newborn fell to his death at Mamelodi Hospital, east of Pretoria, after nurses allegedly refused to help his mother, who gave birth standing.

...

She said a nurse at the hospital refused to assist her on arrival and told her "this is not Zimbabwe".

 

wbot

Executive Member
Joined
Aug 30, 2017
Messages
9,744
Zimbabwean doctors are on strike, let's grab all of them, they will feel right at home here.
Sad thing is they're probably even better qualified and more skilled than ours. But then again not even His Excellency Mad Bob wanted any of them near him so...
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1

Milano

Honorary Master
Joined
Feb 7, 2004
Messages
16,752
I found them..

A Saskatchewan Medical Association study in 1996 proved that 40% of the rural (towns <10 000 people) doctors in Saskatchewan were South African medical graduates.

^ And that was way back in 1996, and only in Saskatchewan, Canada. I believe that now in 2019 we will find the rest of our 'missing' South African doctors in Australia, NZ, US, UK and continental Europe.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1

TheChamp

Honorary Master
Joined
Feb 26, 2011
Messages
57,515
Sad thing is they're probably even better qualified and more skilled than ours. But then again not even His Excellency Mad Bob wanted any of them near him so...
Interesting, why do you think, they are more skilled and better qualified than ours?
 
  • Like
Reactions: ES1
Top