Why you can't expect a fixed IP from Telkom

[kaspaas]

Hi,

I realised this month again why Telkom won't provide a <b>cost effective</b> fixed IP option for ADSL: At present it can fill its pockets 3 times by handling the same data 3 times.

Let me explain:

John sends me e-mail. I goes - via the Telkom infrastructure - to my server at an ISP. The ISP pays Telkom the indecent rates Telkom demands for data connectivity.

So, Telkom cashes in the first time on a few bytes.

Next I download the mail from my server. Again - Telkom smiles for it is selling the bandwidth.

Actually, Telkom smiles twice. Firstly it smiles because my ISP munches more bandwidth for which he has to pay Telkom in the end (actually, I pay the ISP to pay Telkom!)

Then it consumes my 3GB ADSL allocation from Telkom.

A single email travelling 3 times across the network because there is no cost effective fixed IP ADSL offering from Telkom.

If Telkom did provide a <b>cost effective</b> fixed IP ADSL solution, I could run my mail server via ADSL in my offices. All mail would reach me directly.

But as I said: Telkom will loose to much because the ISP won't need as much bandwidth as they do right now once they make a <b>cost effective</b> fixed IP ADSL offering available.





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[alex]

This is a very good point and realy makes allot of sence thanks kaspaas ,i sepose maybe telkom aint that tdumb after all when it comes to makeing money , a similer reason ull find for they 3gig cap , they dont want to upgrade i am shure u read about it in the othere furm

 

[sybawoods]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kaspaas</i>
<br />If Telkom did provide a &lt;b&gt;cost effective&lt;/b&gt; fixed IP ADSL solution, I could run my mail server via ADSL in my offices. All mail would reach me directly.
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I know it's not the point of your post kaspaas, but you prolly <b>do</b> know that it is quite possible to run your own mail server via ADSL using a dynamic dns utility like those available at http://www.dyndns.org/

I ran one for over a year with customised email adresses for all my family and friends... until the novelty wore off [8D]

 

[kaspaas]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sybawoods</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kaspaas</i>
<br />If Telkom did provide a &lt;b&gt;cost effective&lt;/b&gt; fixed IP ADSL solution, I could run my mail server via ADSL in my offices. All mail would reach me directly.
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I know it's not the point of your post kaspaas, but you prolly <b>do</b> know that it is quite possible to run your own mail server via ADSL using a dynamic dns utility like those available at http://www.dyndns.org/

I ran one for over a year with customised email adresses for all my family and friends... until the novelty wore off [8D]
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I've tried it. DynDNS etc is not reliable enough for business applications. I had probs with some DNS servers not updating as regular as DynDNS etc requires.

But I agree - it is great for personal & home use!



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[Karnaugh]

except of course, it takes alot of time and money to actualy run a decent mail server, sure big businesses should do it them selves. But its alot easier to just use an ISP's.

- Colin Alston
colin at alston dot za dot org

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[pjbmm]

Don't forget that telkom generates a lot of income from diginet clients, who require a static IP, and pay insane amounts to get it. If ADSL had a static IP there would be a mass migration from diginet to ADSL, which comes at a much cheaper rate. Telkom are just protecting their profits by only offering dynamic IP's on ADSL.

 

[kaspaas]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Karnaugh</i>
<br />except of course, it takes alot of time and money to actualy run a decent mail server, sure big businesses should do it them selves. But its alot easier to just use an ISP's.
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I'm running an internal mail server on my intranet already - so it would not be much trouble to add traffic from outside as well.

The internal server handles about 5 GB of mail per month - I don't intend passing that via Telkom!



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[sss]

yeah but theres two other problems, 1 is that most of the adsl ip's are blacklisted for smtp because they have been used to send spam, 2. if your capped then you wont be able to send any of your mail outside the country

i'm the gingerbread man!

 

[podo]

sss,

It's not because they have been used to spam, it's because you should not be sending mail directly from your DSL or cable modem or dial-up or what ever.

They aren't in spam lists. They are in "dial-up lists", meaning IPs for use by end users that mail should not be originating from.

Willie Viljoen
Web Developer

Adaptive Web Development

 

[sss]

of course you can send mail directly, who says you are not allowed too? where is it wrong to do this? infact it makes more sense, brings traffic over the internet down, and at least i know my mail reached the destination smtp server!

i'm the gingerbread man!