Why Zuma will be cleared of all charges

Aeron

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There have been many debates about whether Zuma will be cleared of his charges or not. The biggest problem arises with the fact that if Zuma is elected the next president of South Africa, the ANC may attempt to change the constitution to prevent a sitting president for being charged. (Let's face it, a sitting president being charged really says something about the country and the majority of its population.)

But even if the ANC are unable to change that law, it is still likely that Zuma will be cleared. Reasons?

Firstly, the chaos of a president of a country found guilty on Zuma's charges while still in office would be immense. Foreign investors (those that aren't going to pull out already if the ANC win) will pull the plug and the economy will likely tank. Not to mention the chaos on the ground level. The NPA certainly know this and will want to avoid this at all costs. Giving out a not-guilty verdict on a crook would be less damaging than plunging a country into chaos.

Secondly, Malema. A man with the entire ANCYL behind him, he heads an "army" of zealous supporters that will most probably follow him to whatever end. If Zuma is found guilty, there is a very good chance that Malema will tell his supporters to take up arms and start fighting. What they'll be fighting remains to be seen. But Malema could very well be responsible for a lot of bloodshed on the ground-level; another outcome the NPA will do anything to avoid.

Conclusively, the NPA will probably do anything to avoid the country falling into chaos. Even giving out an incorrect verdict.

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I reckon by letting the lizzard loose will cause more damage in the long run. Fry him, its the right thing to do.

The rule of law must be uphelp.
 

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It's not about right right or wrong; it's simply survival of the fittest. And damn Zuma's fit :eek:
 

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I often wonder how much "damage" Chris Hani would have done to the country, if he had lived.
 

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Investors know the ANC is going to win, its not a case of "if", they would've pulled out of South Africa a long time ago had this been the case.

Secondly the ANCYL is hardly a touch on the numbers of supporters in the bad old days. ANCYL memberships is declining rapidly and won't be a major threat, though I do agree that they are a threat none-the-less.
 

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There have been many debates about whether Zuma will be cleared of his charges or not. The biggest problem arises with the fact that if Zuma is elected the next president of South Africa, the ANC may attempt to change the constitution to prevent a sitting president for being charged. (Let's face it, a sitting president being charged really says something about the country and the majority of its population.)

But even if the ANC are unable to change that law, it is still likely that Zuma will be cleared. Reasons?

Firstly, the chaos of a president of a country found guilty on Zuma's charges while still in office would be immense. Foreign investors (those that aren't going to pull out already if the ANC win) will pull the plug and the economy will likely tank. Not to mention the chaos on the ground level. The NPA certainly know this and will want to avoid this at all costs. Giving out a not-guilty verdict on a crook would be less damaging than plunging a country into chaos.

Secondly, Malema. A man with the entire ANCYL behind him, he heads an "army" of zealous supporters that will most probably follow him to whatever end. If Zuma is found guilty, there is a very good chance that Malema will tell his supporters to take up arms and start fighting. What they'll be fighting remains to be seen. But Malema could very well be responsible for a lot of bloodshed on the ground-level; another outcome the NPA will do anything to avoid.

Conclusively, the NPA will probably do anything to avoid the country falling into chaos. Even giving out an incorrect verdict.

Opinions?

The fact that Zuma is guilty has already been factored into the rating of South Africa. Getting rid of him is more likely to improve our rating.

There may be plenty of Malema idiots but there are more bullets. One or two may need to be shot before they see the error of their ways. But insurrection is always a possibility in any country - some times it's marginal, at other times it isn't
 
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Firstly, the chaos of a president of a country found guilty on Zuma's charges while still in office would be immense. Foreign investors (those that aren't going to pull out already if the ANC win) will pull the plug and the economy will likely tank. Not to mention the chaos on the ground level. The NPA certainly know this and will want to avoid this at all costs. Giving out a not-guilty verdict on a crook would be less damaging than plunging a country into chaos.

Whoa, is this what you sit and wonder about while you're alone? Leave it to the ANC to decide what to do with Zuma...the reality of the situation is slowly dawning upon them. But seemingly you are of the view that SA will go all bonkers because Zuma might be prosecuted while he's in office...even go as far as to claim that the ANC might change the Constitution.

I'll take a wild guess and say that this time I around the ANC might not be able to change the Constitution as the chances of 2/3 majority has pretty much withered away with the sacking of Thabo Mbeki.

Even when they had a 2/3 majority there was never any talk of changing the Constitution apart from the fearmongering coming from the DA.

Secondly, Malema. A man with the entire ANCYL behind him, he heads an "army" of zealous supporters that will most probably follow him to whatever end. If Zuma is found guilty, there is a very good chance that Malema will tell his supporters to take up arms and start fighting. What they'll be fighting remains to be seen. But Malema could very well be responsible for a lot of bloodshed on the ground-level; another outcome the NPA will do anything to avoid.



ROLMAO....please check your history and see how Malema was elected to head the ANC YL...hardly by the popular vote. Anyway, I mentioned in another thread...Malema is simply a smokescreen who will say and do anything to get attention....even if that means putting the BeJeezus into white people.

Conclusively, the NPA will probably do anything to avoid the country falling into chaos. Even giving out an incorrect verdict.

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Conclusively? What gives you this idea...if they wanted to roll over and play dead they could've done it a long time ago.

The fact that Zuma is guilty has already been factored into the rating of South Africa. Getting rid of him is more likely to improve our rating.

There may be plenty of Malema idiots but there are more bullets. One or two may need to be shot before they see the error of their ways. But insurrection is always a possibility in any country - some times it's marginal, at other times it isn't

Are you actually saying that politicians would have to be killed for something positive to happen in SA? You should know that if anything happens to Julius the NIA will definitely be knocking on your door.
 

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But insurrection is always a possibility in any country - some times it's marginal, at other times it isn't

When last was there an insurrection in a western country?
When last was there an insurrection in an African country?
Where do we live?
 

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Are you actually saying that politicians would have to be killed for something positive to happen in SA? You should know that if anything happens to Julius the NIA will definitely be knocking on your door.

Sometimes you need to read the entire context :p

No, I am not saying that politicians would have to be killed. I am saying that if Malema raises a mob to go rampaging through the streets the army and the police will put an end to it - they have a lot more bullets than Malema and his rabble raisers. And it won't be a case of asking them to behave and leaving it that. They will be taken on. And some of them will die, and then it'll end.

Sorry - what is so shocking about this little truth? Or are we in Rwanda?

And if something happens to Malema the NIA won't be knocking on my door. Unless I have a party and they are invited :)
 

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When last was there an insurrection in a western country?
When last was there an insurrection in an African country?
Where do we live?

Definition: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.

The Oklahoma Bomber is an immediately obvious example. I think you are trying to say that it is more likely to happen in Africa. Possibly true. I was arguing that it can happen anywhere. If you let it get out of control then you have serious pooh, and that pooh is a lot more serious in countries that have too many machetes - and that's why Malema would be stopped if ever he tried to take up arms.
 

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They don't have time to change the constitution now. We as South African voters just need to make sure the ANC doesn't get 2/3's majority. This is the sole reason I will be voting this election. To make sure the ANC will not get 2/3's. I have not voted in the last 2 elections because I had no reason to.

Go and Vote to keep JZ in Jail :D
 
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