Windows ten licensing

The_Potty_1

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I'm buying a new computer without an os, and I want to put windows ten on it. Windows licensing has always been complicated, so if someone could check my work, I'd be grateful.

The full package allows you to install multiple times on wildly different computers, forever. Only one seat may be active at a time. You may have to phone microsoft if your hardware changes too often, but within reason, they will accommodate you. This costs R4000 on the microsoft site, or R3500 on takealot.

The OEM package allows you to run on one specific computer, basically the first time you install it, the hardware identifiers get hashed into the license or something, and Microsoft keep track of the hash. If you then change the mobo & processor, odds are it will break the license. Some wiggle room is allowed for hardware failure, so you can change some parts, but not the entire system. Reverting to the old hardware should re-activate the license. This license costs less, but actually, not that much less. Evetech and Wootware are both selling it for R3050.

Then there's a DSP package on Takealot for R1900, which is only for sale bundled with hardware. What sort of hardware, a screen, a Microsoft mouse, who knows. I think this is probably the price OEM editions are supposed to go for.

EDIT correction the OEM and DSP packs are the same thing.

Finally, just about everywhere you can buy extremely dodgy license codes for a couple of rand. I'll stake a kidney that microsoft views them as illegal. Not one of MY kidneys obviously, but certainly something that might pass for human in poor light. EDIT OK this is a grey area, as the people giving out the licenses probably bought a volume license, which Microsoft intended to be used by a single company. The licenses may technically not be illegal, but you're probably not eligible for tech support.

So, any glaring errors? I don't particularly want to rip Microsoft off, but all evidence indicates that they make most of their revenue on Office and Azure, and probably plan to get out of the os business entirely. I would say this is directly because you can buy grey copies for R100, on the other hand, it's probably too late to change their minds, I saw a couple of articles recently saying windows will probably become a linux front-end.


So, if possible, I'd like to get the R1900 version, but I'm buying the hardware from evetech, and the DSP package is on takealot. Will takealot honour this sale, I'm happy to buy a screen along with the license? It would suck to pay them, and then have them refuse to deliver.
 
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@The_Potty_1
Buy a legit licence and install it on one machine.

If you want a no-charge OS licence, download and install one of the many free Linux distros available.

It's a matter of personal ethics and reciprosity. If you're prepared to use someone else's property without their permission, how can you complain when others do the same to you.

@Wasabee! @Scooby_Doo I care. As do millions of people who hold themselves to the same standard they hold others. You should take the trouble to find out just how software licensing works, and why breach of copyright is not just a legal issue but a moral one.
 
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@Arthur I'm already running linux, it's the machine I'm on right now. The windows machine is for development.

I bought the OEM package from takealot, it arrived this morning. The new hardware should arrive today as well, I'm hoping I can just slot the existing windows 10 hard drive onto the new mobo / processor, and it will fix its drivers and ask for the new license code. It might fail horribly because I switched from Intel to AMD, but I can hope.

It is about ethics. Windows is an extremely solid product, Microsoft deserve to be rewarded for their work. Linux does too actually, it is also a mighty fine piece of work. How does one even reward linux developers? Damn, and wikipedia could use some love as well.

Huh. Can you tell I'm a developer? :p
 
Even cheaper, just install Windows and don't activate it.

I've been running an unlicensed copy of Win 10 on my new desktop PC since I got it. I own 3 other windows 10 licenses so I'm not bothered to go buy a new one.
 
@The_Potty_1
Buy a legit licence and install it on one machine.

If you want a no-charge OS licence, download and install one of the many free Linux distros available.

It's a matter of personal ethics and reciprosity. If you're prepared to use someone else's property without their permission, how can you complain when others do the same to you.

@Wasabee! @Scooby_Doo I care. As do millions of people who hold themselves to the same standard they hold others. You should take the trouble to find out just how software licensing works, and why breach of copyright is not just a legal issue but a moral one.
Lol paying R3999 for Windows 10 Pro is madness https://www.microsoft.com/en-za/store/b/windows
 
The R100 Windows license keys are legal from a Microsoft perspective, as they can be activated online.

Whether they have been legally acquired is another debate:)
 
I'm buying a new computer without an os, and I want to put windows ten on it. Windows licensing has always been complicated, so if someone could check my work, I'd be grateful.

The full package allows you to install multiple times on wildly different computers, forever. Only one seat may be active at a time. You may have to phone microsoft if your hardware changes too often, but within reason, they will accommodate you. This costs R4000 on the microsoft site, or R3500 on takealot.

The OEM package allows you to run on one specific computer, basically the first time you install it, the hardware identifiers get hashed into the license or something, and Microsoft keep track of the hash. If you then change the mobo & processor, odds are it will break the license. Some wiggle room is allowed for hardware failure, so you can change some parts, but not the entire system. Reverting to the old hardware should re-activate the license. This license costs less, but actually, not that much less. Evetech and Wootware are both selling it for R3050.

Then there's a DSP package on Takealot for R1900, which is only for sale bundled with hardware. What sort of hardware, a screen, a Microsoft mouse, who knows. I think this is probably the price OEM editions are supposed to go for.

EDIT correction the OEM and DSP packs are the same thing.

Finally, just about everywhere you can buy extremely dodgy license codes for a couple of rand. I'll stake a kidney that microsoft views them as illegal. Not one of MY kidneys obviously, but certainly something that might pass for human in poor light. EDIT OK this is a grey area, as the people giving out the licenses probably bought a volume license, which Microsoft intended to be used by a single company. The licenses may technically not be illegal, but you're probably not eligible for tech support.

So, any glaring errors? I don't particularly want to rip Microsoft off, but all evidence indicates that they make most of their revenue on Office and Azure, and probably plan to get out of the os business entirely. I would say this is directly because you can buy grey copies for R100, on the other hand, it's probably too late to change their minds, I saw a couple of articles recently saying windows will probably become a linux front-end.


So, if possible, I'd like to get the R1900 version, but I'm buying the hardware from evetech, and the DSP package is on takealot. Will takealot honour this sale, I'm happy to buy a screen along with the license? It would suck to pay them, and then have them refuse to deliver.
Three things:

1) Microsoft's prices are insane and I don't blame anyone buying the grey market keys

2) DSP licenses are supposed to be sold with hardware, but are frequently just let go to unclog the sales channel. A mouse or keyboard should qualify, but this is a dumb restriction. The only people who still enforce this are distributors who want to shovel **** alongside Windows sales.

Just order the DSP if you want. It's sold by Elite Cell, who definitely don't care about those requirements.

3) Microsoft ultimately doesn't care where you got your license, just that you're running Windows 10.

The only thing you lose with grey market keys is support from Microsoft. However, the situation with activations is also different today. Microsoft doesn't do mass key bans on Windows 10 because they use digital licenses now, and there's no way to know what activations were OEM or Dreamspark.

It doesn't matter where you got it, or that you never activate it (making Windows 10 perpetually free), only that you'll soon be paying for Office 365 or Game Pass Ultimate.
 
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It is about ethics. Windows is an extremely solid product, Microsoft deserve to be rewarded for their work. Linux does too actually, it is also a mighty fine piece of work. How does one even reward linux developers? Damn, and wikipedia could use some love as well.

Huh. Can you tell I'm a developer? :p
If you were worried about ethics you wouldn't be paying those prices for Windows 10.

If you want to support open source or Wikipedia there are donation channels available. The people involved aren't looking for personal reward, but contributions of knowledge. Damn socialists and communists obviously.
 
Run it without licencing it then.
You get the same functionality out of it anyway
 
@Arthur said it's the right thing to do. So cough up and help maintain the monopoly.
Where have I heard that before? Think it was some extortion scam. You buy this license for R265 and end up paying every year for the rest of your life. I hear that it is impossible to cancel even if you die.
 
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