Windows Vista torture - not connecting to internet

Nay my good friend, not the case with mac.
Allow me to demonstrate.

I got the 4 old mbp's out the store room.
I started with the eldest of the tribe - 14yrs old, still fully functional - zero issues whatsoever, and still pretty quick.

Behold:
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These Mac models are compatible with macOS High Sierra:

  • MacBook (Late 2009 or newer)
  • MacBook Pro (Mid 2010 or newer)
  • MacBook Air (Late 2010 or newer)
  • Mac mini (Mid 2010 or newer)
  • iMac (Late 2009 or newer)
  • Mac Pro (Mid 2010 or newer)

Basically the Windows 10 of Macs :ROFL:
 
This. When using Firefox version 115 on Windows 7 I could get older computers to browse the internet.
On a related note,if you absolutely need to run an updated browser on old hardware and OS,may I introduce you to Supermium - the 32bit Chromium fork that works on Windows XP/2003 and up
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@Grant A Mac with a clean install of a 8 year old OSX will also have certificate issues I would think.
Why have you not tried win 10 or the advice @me_ has given?
The scary thing is windows 10 is almost 10 years old. Windows 7 is 15 years old already
 
These Mac models are compatible with macOS High Sierra:

  • MacBook (Late 2009 or newer)
  • MacBook Pro (Mid 2010 or newer)
  • MacBook Air (Late 2010 or newer)
  • Mac mini (Mid 2010 or newer)
  • iMac (Late 2009 or newer)
  • Mac Pro (Mid 2010 or newer)

Basically the Windows 10 of Macs :ROFL:
Even newer, high Sierra is from 2017
 
With all the time you wasted, you might as well have bought him a more up to date computer
 
With all the time you wasted, you might as well have bought him a more up to date computer
as per post #15, there are 4 old laptops in the store room - all good.

but there are some people who will trojan on to unravel a mystery.
for better or worse, i am one of those.

but if you are a friend or a client, its happy days - once i get into something i dont let go - no matter the time or effort involved, i'll leave no stone unturned.

**i'm not in the i.t. industry - or anything remotely related
 
Nay my good friend, not the case with mac.
Allow me to demonstrate.

I got the 4 old mbp's out the store room.
I started with the eldest of the tribe - 14yrs old, still fully functional - zero issues whatsoever, and still pretty quick.
Ok, but did you do a clean install of the 14 year old OS, or has it been updated along the way?
All certificates that enable HTTPS on the internet are issued by a CA and they expire.

My point being that you cannot expect a clean OS without updates to just work on modern internet.
 
Ok, but did you do a clean install of the 14 year old OS, or has it been updated along the way?
All certificates that enable HTTPS on the internet are issued by a CA and they expire.

My point being that you cannot expect a clean OS without updates to just work on modern internet.
a clean install was done when it got the ssd drive. - probably around 4yrs back.

the current os (high sierra) was released 2017
the previous / original os on it was snow leopard - released 2009

**edit
i always clone the drives of the various mbp's
the ssd went in aug 2021 - clean install
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Ok, but did you do a clean install of the 14 year old OS, or has it been updated along the way?
All certificates that enable HTTPS on the internet are issued by a CA and they expire.

My point being that you cannot expect a clean OS without updates to just work on modern internet.
It's running high Sierra according to screen shot so oldest OS level 8 years, but it eol 2019/2020
 
Save yourself some time and pick him up a second hand lappie that runs win 11 or MacOS
 
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as per post #15, there are 4 old laptops in the store room - all good.

but there are some people who will trojan on to unravel a mystery.
for better or worse, i am one of those.

but if you are a friend or a client, its happy days - once i get into something i dont let go - no matter the time or effort involved, i'll leave no stone unturned.

**i'm not in the i.t. industry - or anything remotely related
I too am like that, very often to my wife's dismay! And sometimes come up with very creative solutions. Some years ago, at work I had a problem with what's called the Electronics Unit (EU) of a VERY expensive piece of analytical equipment (±R5 million at that time).

To replace the EU would have cost about R500 000. I dismantled the EU to inspect the innards. I saw that the main controller was a sort of custom computer, and the communications interface between the computer and the analytical equipment was an ISA slot card. I searched for an older computer that still had an ISA slot, and then MacGyver-ed it to work, saving the company not only money, but valuable time because that analyser is used to measure parts per billion components that kills the catalyst in the reactors. Catalyst replacement costs millions. This analyser has to run 24/7/365 to detect the presence of the catalyst killers so that steps can be taken if it exceeds a certain level.

Instead of having the reactors running "blind" for 6-8 weeks, I got this analyser back online within a few days. The EU is custom built on order, and only manufactured by one company in the USA. At the end of this exercise I at least got a cursory mention in our morning meetings, but that's a discussion for another day. I too am not (was, went on pension as of 1 April this year) in the IT industry.
 
I too am like that, very often to my wife's dismay! And sometimes come up with very creative solutions. Some years ago, at work I had a problem with what's called the Electronics Unit (EU) of a VERY expensive piece of analytical equipment (±R5 million at that time).

To replace the EU would have cost about R500 000. I dismantled the EU to inspect the innards. I saw that the main controller was a sort of custom computer, and the communications interface between the computer and the analytical equipment was an ISA slot card. I searched for an older computer that still had an ISA slot, and then MacGyver-ed it to work, saving the company not only money, but valuable time because that analyser is used to measure parts per billion components that kills the catalyst in the reactors. Catalyst replacement costs millions. This analyser has to run 24/7/365 to detect the presence of the catalyst killers so that steps can be taken if it exceeds a certain level.

Instead of having the reactors running "blind" for 6-8 weeks, I got this analyser back online within a few days. The EU is custom built on order, and only manufactured by one company in the USA. At the end of this exercise I at least got a cursory mention in our morning meetings, but that's a discussion for another day. I too am not (was, went on pension as of 1 April this year) in the IT industry.
Hey you could sue the company for all it's revenue, just look at the chap who came up with an idea that no implement it.
 
FYI, the problem with Vista is TLS version support, modern websites require newer TLS versions(TLS 1.3 and TLS 1.2) that is not available on Vista.

"TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 are not available in Windows Vista, but you can enable TLS 1.1 and 1.2 on Windows Vista using the KB4056564 update patch for Windows Server 2008"
 
Install some version of Linux - it might work.

I'm getting heat prickles just reading about you fxcking around with such old versions of windows.

sometimes old schit is simply too old and needs to go in the bin
Agreed, Linux Mint would be simple enough to learn and use. the XFCE spin would be decently lightweight on RAM resources as well, and it would be a simple 15min install, if not less. Install VLC, and Chromium (Firefox is good enough, but you know, people), and non-PC-savvy folks would be none the wiser.
 
I love repurposing Gen4+ machines for Win10/Debian/Raspbian use
Mini Homelabs
 
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