WOAN remains priority over 5G in SA's spectrum battle

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WOAN remains priority over 5G in SA's spectrum battle

Government remains married to the Wireless Open Access Network (WOAN) despite the opposition it received from all quarters when the concept was first published in the National Integrated ICT Policy White paper in 2016.

The WOAN concept has, to date, not been successfully implemented anywhere in the world and countries like Australia and Russia abandoned the idea, yet South Africa pushed forward.
 

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Give us junk status, please.
Give us what we deserve.
 

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Cant everyone see that icasa is trying to prevent another multichoice monopoly on sport, if they hand out spectrum to the highest bidders most likely vodacom and mtn will scoop it up and these 2 company's will never offer 5G at affordable rates, these 2 company's claim they will, but consider the history, mtn crap and vodascum will milk us South Africans at R149 for 1 gig in 2019 when 1gig is half a movie, they will milk us dry to please shareholders, icasa is preventing this and wants affordable high speed uncapped Internet even for those earning minimum wage!
 

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Cant everyone see that icasa is trying to prevent another multichoice monopoly on sport, if they hand out spectrum to the highest bidders most likely vodacom and mtn will scoop it up and these 2 company's will never offer 5G at affordable rates, these 2 company's claim they will, but consider the history, mtn crap and vodascum will milk us South Africans at R149 for 1 gig in 2019 when 1gig is half a movie, they will milk us dry to please shareholders, icasa is preventing this and wants affordable high speed uncapped Internet even for those earning minimum wage!
While in rest of the world data is way cheaper.
 

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While in rest of the world data is way cheaper.
Do really think if vodacom and mtn get the spectrum, data will be cheaper, take history into account and current pricing, mtn and vodacom R149 a gig in 2019!?, these company's can provide cheap uncapped 4g because the infrastructure that exists is paid for over the years but refuse to do so
 

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Cant everyone see that icasa is trying to prevent another multichoice monopoly on sport, if they hand out spectrum to the highest bidders most likely vodacom and mtn will scoop it up and these 2 company's will never offer 5G at affordable rates, these 2 company's claim they will, but consider the history, mtn crap and vodascum will milk us South Africans at R149 for 1 gig in 2019 when 1gig is half a movie, they will milk us dry to please shareholders, icasa is preventing this and wants affordable high speed uncapped Internet even for those earning minimum wage!
Exactly this I'm worried about. Their track record of the same prices (no promotions don't count) for the past 5 years shows exactly this. It's an aspect that should be carefully looked at and spectrum assigned on an equitable basis where it will matter to consumers. There has been a lot of policies on the table but every single time since they weren't the only two any more they've opposed them. To think others like Rain that offer cheaper data will roll out 5G before Vodacom even has spectrum for it.
 

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Nobody will convince me this is not connected to someone's idea of another revenue stream, official or unofficial, for the ruling party.
 

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Nobody will convince me this is not connected to someone's idea of another revenue stream, official or unofficial, for the ruling party.
If it is or not as long as us the consumers pay affordable rates for data and not let mtn crap and vodacrap dominate the markets and leave us with no choice but to pay R149 a gig, mtn and vodacom are the reason we don't have affordable uncapped lte, the only worry is icasa officials getting a cookie from mtn and vodacom to push 5G in a way that will benefit these 2 scum networks
 

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If it is or not as long as us the consumers pay affordable rates for data and not let mtn crap and vodacrap dominate the markets and leave us with no choice but to pay R149 a gig, mtn and vodacom are the reason we don't have affordable uncapped lte, the only worry is icasa officials getting a cookie from mtn and vodacom to push 5G in a way that will benefit these 2 scum networks
You cannot blame MTN and Vodacom for using what they have been given by the government and regulator. Sorry. They answer to their shareholders first. That's business 101.
 
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Imagine they pushed this hard for an open access network back in the ADSL days.
 

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You cannot blame MTN and Vodacom for using what they have been given by the government and regulator. Sorry. They answer to their shareholders first. That's business 101.
Which is why you need a regulator that does its job and looks after the customer first.
 

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The WOAN will fail, looks at the history.

ICASA also needs to make spectrum available to WISPs at an affordable rate.

Possibly consider a portion of the spectrum as lite licensing.
At municipal level.
 

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You cannot blame MTN and Vodacom for using what they have been given by the government and regulator. Sorry. They answer to their shareholders first. That's business 101.
So you one of those that doesn't mind paying R149 a gig, so sit back and watch a few movies on netflix using mtn or vodacom modem! All companies are entitled to make a profit but not as much as vodacoms last results, the profit vodacom and mtn makes is comparable to developed countries in Europe when South Africa is 70% below the poverty line, in short they milking the consumers to satisfy shareholders in euro zone. The euro exchange rate is no reason to charge us South Africans R149 a gig that's $10 a gig, even higher than USA, JUST TO PLEASE euro zone shareholders at the expense of South African consumers
 

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So you one of those that doesn't mind paying R149 a gig, so sit back and watch a few movies on netflix using mtn or vodacom modem! All companies are entitled to make a profit but not as much as vodacoms last results, the profit vodacom and mtn makes is comparable to developed countries in Europe when South Africa is 70% below the poverty line, in short they milking the consumers to satisfy shareholders in euro zone. The euro exchange rate is no reason to charge us South Africans R149 a gig that's $10 a gig, even higher than USA, JUST TO PLEASE euro zone shareholders at the expense of South African consumers
LOL nope, I'm just laying the blame at the right feet. You do remember Ivy, right?

Besides, are you a communist or socialist perhaps?
If you don't like paying high prices, use another operator. That's how it works.
 

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Imagine they pushed this hard for an open access network back in the ADSL days.
llu is coming, any second now!

llu in the uk caused huge drops in profits margins. competition was strong. it is most likely the reason why it never happened here.


i surmise there are similar reasons why spectrum has not been released here yet.
 
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