Woman found decomposing at home after mental health services failed to check in on her

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In all fairness to the United Kingdom. They do have a large population of which at least 99% of all people are borderline retarded, pretty much the same stats as here in SA. Don't blame these people if they do not get to everyone in time. Incidents like this is bound to happen.
 
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Correct. Now tell me how mental patients in rural areas get to the provincial hospital unassisted and explain their problem?
What do you mean by unassisted? Often, district hospitals arrange all necessary transport if patient doesn't have transport of their own.
 
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In all fairness to the United Kingdom. They do have a large population of which at least 99% of all people are borderline retarded, pretty much the same stats as here in SA. Don't blame these people if they do not get to everyone in time. Incidents like this is bound to happen.
Retarded population that ruled almost half the world hardly few centuries years ago? And continue to a dominant force in world commerce, culture and politics?
 
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Retarded population that ruled almost half the world hardly few centuries years ago? And continue to a dominant force in world commerce, culture and politics?

Still does not matter. They are all retards.
 

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What do you mean by unassisted? Often, district hospitals arrange all necessary transport if patient doesn't have transport of their own.

Yes. I've seen the transport. The only ambulance the clinic has with a driver only and no medical personnel going along. All 15 have to sit on the floor or on the stretchers. The ambulance is also one of those bought by some dodgy deal that is a modified Toyota panel van not designed to carry people because the structural strengthening of the taxi is missing. Now you chuck 15 people in it plus the weight of the medical equipment.

And the patients are dropped off and left on their own while the driver runs errands and does shopping.

Do you find this acceptable as mental patient transport or patient transport at all?
 

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Why does this keep happening in the UK?

"If we all just settle into small, mutually ignorant online support groups exchanging comforting half-truths, then civilisation is in for a rough ride. No one will know what is really going on, and working out what is really going on has, for most of history, been humankind’s main purpose. Losing that is a high price to pay for being able to order pizza without speaking to anyone."
 

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Yes. I've seen the transport. The only ambulance the clinic has with a driver only and no medical personnel going along. All 15 have to sit on the floor or on the stretchers. The ambulance is also one of those bought by some dodgy deal that is a modified Toyota panel van not designed to carry people because the structural strengthening of the taxi is missing. Now you chuck 15 people in it plus the weight of the medical equipment.

And the patients are dropped off and left on their own while the driver runs errands and does shopping.

Do you find this acceptable as mental patient transport or patient transport at all?
That's horrible. I guess it depends on the administration of that area.
 

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That's horrible. I guess it depends on the administration of that area.

And known by the authorities and the Dept of Transport. But Fikile starts with a PR stunt of filling potholes...

AN ESTIMATED 3,000 ambulances transporting patients on South Africa’s roads – and at least 1,333 – are illegally converted Toyota Quantum panel vans that are not allowed to carry more than three passengers – all three of whom should be seated in the front. But provincial health departments are acquiring these structurally unsafe ambulances through official tender processes without realising they will never pass the stringent safety measures of the original manufacturer, Toyota Japan.

The reason is that the panel vans are designed and built to transport parcels, not people. There is even a sticker in the back compartment of the Quantum panel van warning: “Do not put your feet or seat on this platform. It is only for parcels.”

Yet, Toyota South Africa is selling hundreds of panel vans, knowing full well that they will be converted into ambulances, transporting both patients and crew who almost always will number more than the legal limit.

In order to turn panel vans into ambulances, extra windows are cut out of the carcass, which weakens the body of the vehicle. Extra weight is added by installing a cabinet and at least one seat as well as fitting up to two beds in the rear cabin without reinforcing the floor. Several additional mountings and attachment points for equipment are also fixed to the side panels.


 

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And known by the authorities and the Dept of Transport. But Fikile starts with a PR stunt of filling potholes...

AN ESTIMATED 3,000 ambulances transporting patients on South Africa’s roads – and at least 1,333 – are illegally converted Toyota Quantum panel vans that are not allowed to carry more than three passengers – all three of whom should be seated in the front. But provincial health departments are acquiring these structurally unsafe ambulances through official tender processes without realising they will never pass the stringent safety measures of the original manufacturer, Toyota Japan.

The reason is that the panel vans are designed and built to transport parcels, not people. There is even a sticker in the back compartment of the Quantum panel van warning: “Do not put your feet or seat on this platform. It is only for parcels.”

Yet, Toyota South Africa is selling hundreds of panel vans, knowing full well that they will be converted into ambulances, transporting both patients and crew who almost always will number more than the legal limit.

In order to turn panel vans into ambulances, extra windows are cut out of the carcass, which weakens the body of the vehicle. Extra weight is added by installing a cabinet and at least one seat as well as fitting up to two beds in the rear cabin without reinforcing the floor. Several additional mountings and attachment points for equipment are also fixed to the side panels.


I know of 2 cases of from where I come from. Everything ran seamlessly for them. I assume the way they were assisted is how they operate.
 

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Retarded population that ruled almost half the world hardly few centuries years ago? And continue to a dominant force in world commerce, culture and politics?

Heard an interesting theory once: most of the UK’s best young stock was sent to die in WWI and WWII. In a lot of communities the only people left were women, the elderly and the infirm. Breeding stock took a very serious knock, but the population still had to recover its losses somehow, I guess.
 

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Facetious. A taxi for 300km? Unassisted? Mental patient you're going to let loose into the country?
Why would they be unassisted? people have families, and communities where they live. In a case I was involved in the person was taken to the nearest hospital, the doctors gave him an injection and he was transported to the nearest mental facility by the hospital.
 

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Why would they be unassisted? people have families, and communities where they live. In a case I was involved in the person was taken to the nearest hospital, the doctors gave him an injection and he was transported to the nearest mental facility by the hospital.

Because the people can't even afford the money to go to the Home Affairs over 100 km away for death certificates. Rural towns have a single ambulance, used to transport the patients to the nearest provincial hospital over 300km away. How do you fit an extra community member into an already over full ambulance like I described? And which guest house are you going to book them into? Do you read the thread before jumping in to comment?
 
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