Woman found decomposing at home after mental health services failed to check in on her

[Dave]

Your EXACT figure is from wik... ja nevermind.
you are simply a troll.

Are you really as dumb as you are currently acting?

It's from page 5

http://www.centre-robert-schuman.org/

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Why unassisted
People in rural communities are a close nit society, they are in and out of each others houses and even breathe in the same red sand

Because there is no more space in the ambulance with 15 people sitting on the floor and stretchers for 300 km to the provincial hospital. The driver is not a medic either and runs errands in the town. And where is the Department of Health going to accommodate the family member for the night? In a guesthouse? They don't even have money for meds.

This was written in this thread already. Read the thread before jumping in and commenting. In SA that is called picking up stompies - Jumping into a conversation not knowing what has already been covered.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

People in rural communities are a close nit society, they are in and out of each others houses and even breathe in the same red sand

BS. You don't get more rural than I am. If you want to visit me you make an arrangement or upon my invitation. Anyone arriving unannounced is suspect and will trigger a watch alert.

 

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

Are you really as dumb as you are currently acting?

It's from page 5

http://www.centre-robert-schuman.org/

Page 1 of your source.

Classification of casualty statistics Estimates of casualty numbers for World War I vary to a great extent.


You do realise that they revise those numbers fairly often? this is because they are guesswork. Not sure about the UK but the last revision of US losses took place in 1957 if memory serves. and they were only in the war for a year or so, and in action for even less. Every single credible source (not national archives who still cannot bring themselves to admit that children as young as 12 fought) cites estimates. The numbers of missing presumed dead are very large. Large numbers of buried but unburied dead still litter france. Some dead lay in no man's land for more than a year in some places. Some of the soldiers from the dominions enlisted directly into UK regiments are counted by both the UK and the dominion in question, some are counted by neither. Throw in the odd deserter here and there and it is impossible to know for sure. Every reliable source confirms this, probably even the one your google search turned up (TLDR), you just didn't read the whole thing. Yes their parliament has reported a number.... but they really don't know. The british war records are at best 97% accurate.
but you are (deliberately?) missing the point. The exact figures are unimportant other than that they are large. Far more important is that they are not evenly distributed across the country. The depopulation theory is bang on, for some places, not the UK as a whole. It is not a question of the percentage of the adult male population that was killed which was small but the percentage of individual places which was sometimes very large. To add to that they were mostly the volunteers of "kitchener's army", poorly trained and unprepared. The UK has been VERY sensitive about military deaths ever since. The western front has literally changed their outlook on war totally. This can be seen in their dead in WW2 being less than half those in ww1, despite ww2 costing globally four time what ww1 did. This is because while at one point the UK stood alone against hitler they did not engage the main enemy on the main front for the majority of the war. that fell to russia. this occurred due to an unwillingness to attempt opening a second front (ignore dieppe, that was essentially a dress rehearsal from which they learned much at a great but lesser cost than had they tried it that way on a large scale) until they had accumulated the strength and allies to make it work.
Anyway we are seriously off topic.

 

[ForceFate]

Because there is no more space in the ambulance with 15 people sitting on the floor and stretchers for 300 km to the provincial hospital. The driver is not a medic either and runs errands in the town. And where is the Department of Health going to accommodate the family member for the night? In a guesthouse? They don't even have money for meds.

This was written in this thread already. Read the thread before jumping in and commenting. In SA that is called picking up stompies - Jumping into a conversation not knowing what has already been covered.

Ambulance drivers have some first aid training afaik...but I may be wrong. They even wear the same uniform as the paramedics. No?

 

[Dave]

Page 1 of your source.

Classification of casualty statistics Estimates of casualty numbers for World War I vary to a great extent.


You do realise that they revise those numbers fairly often? this is because they are guesswork. Not sure about the UK but the last revision of US losses took place in 1957 if memory serves. and they were only in the war for a year or so, and in action for even less. Every single credible source (not national archives who still cannot bring themselves to admit that children as young as 12 fought) cites estimates. The numbers of missing presumed dead are very large. Large numbers of buried but unburied dead still litter france. Some dead lay in no man's land for more than a year in some places. Some of the soldiers from the dominions enlisted directly into UK regiments are counted by both the UK and the dominion in question, some are counted by neither. Throw in the odd deserter here and there and it is impossible to know for sure. Every reliable source confirms this, probably even the one your google search turned up (TLDR), you just didn't read the whole thing. Yes their parliament has reported a number.... but they really don't know. The british war records are at best 97% accurate.
but you are (deliberately?) missing the point. The exact figures are unimportant other than that they are large. Far more important is that they are not evenly distributed across the country. The depopulation theory is bang on, for some places, not the UK as a whole. It is not a question of the percentage of the adult male population that was killed which was small but the percentage of individual places which was sometimes very large. To add to that they were mostly the volunteers of "kitchener's army", poorly trained and unprepared. The UK has been VERY sensitive about military deaths ever since. The western front has literally changed their outlook on war totally. This can be seen in their dead in WW2 being less than half those in ww1, despite ww2 costing globally four time what ww1 did. This is because while at one point the UK stood alone against hitler they did not engage the main enemy on the main front for the majority of the war. that fell to russia. this occurred due to an unwillingness to attempt opening a second front (ignore dieppe, that was essentially a dress rehearsal from which they learned much at a great but lesser cost than had they tried it that way on a large scale) until they had accumulated the strength and allies to make it work.
Anyway we are seriously off topic.

Tl;dr

Have you ever heard of paragraphs?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Ambulance drivers have some first aid training afaik...but I may be wrong. They even wear the same uniform as the paramedics. No?

Not all of them. In rural areas some are drivers only and wear an overall. The paramedic sits in the passenger seat. Due to a lack of paramedics, they don't go on such long patient delivery trips with patients as something could happen in their area. If the driver is a paramedic they will not be on that trip either for the same reason. A driver only will be sent.

SA's healthcare is in a far more precarious position than most know.

 

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

Tl;dr

Have you ever heard of paragraphs?