Workplace privileges still reserved for whites: commission

Kosmik

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What privileges? Seems their main complaint is the below:

She said the people at top level who were moving, were being recruited at top levels elsewhere.

But it's not likely someone is going to move down a level.
 

Voicy

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Keeping that racial polarization alive and well, thanks MyBruzzfeedTech.
 

The_MAC

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You know what, lets just fire all the non EE people, replace with EE people regardless of skill or experience, then the commission can be dissolved, job done and problem solved.
 

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We are a white capitalist corporation. Started by whites, managed by whites, we built our own privileged now suck it.
 

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Frankly, it's time for this ongoing racially divisive drivel ends (along with the collaboration of the media). It is only inflaming racial tensions by isolating whites as the cause of any and all negative aspects of everybody else's lives. It's teaching people that they are not responsible for themselves, i.e. "it's all the greedy whites fault".

There will be no progress until there is honesty, and if the chairperson of the CEE was truly honest she'd be asking some hard questions such as how much of the failure of black advancement is due to factors other than "white privilege". For instance, has she considered why in over two decades only a handful of businesses established by blacks have grown to any significant size despite having numerous advantages. Has she analysed why more white males are extended training opportunities (as she claims - I'm dubious) instead of just assuming it's due to racism? Have the atrocious education standards with which youngsters are entering the job market not made any impression on her? Has she ever wondered why it is that if there are so many capable blacks champing at the bit to run businesses they haven't started their own, and instead continue to look only to whites for their advancement opportunities?

To put it bluntly, the black community needs to stop defining itself in terms of whites and hoping that they will somehow be gifted a slice of the pie if only they guilt whites sufficiently. Where is your culture of valuing education above all else, of engaging in entrepreneurial activities at every level, of building family businesses, of investing whatever little you have and planning and saving for the future? Look inwards first and if you're still banging your head on a glass ceiling after honestly putting in the hard work then you can start talking about privilege. You have the numbers, you have the market affinity, you have the political power, in fact you have every advantage so why aren't you out their building your own businesses instead of whining about how unfair life is to you?
 

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Commission for Employment Equity will embark on engagements with business leaders in various sectors to establish the slow pace of transformation.

So, if 76% odd of business leaders are white, what would the engagement look like?

Is she going to ask them to willingly give up their jobs for a young black female, because transformation and the pace thereof, or to continue working in their businesses?

I wonder what the business leaders will opt for?

This is why idiots become members of useless commissions and business leaders lead and make money and employment.

Sick of this nonsense now .... really.
 

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The CEE is a lazy bunch of racists. They procure the same BS for business stakeholders every year without fail.
 

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This is honestly why I am entertaining the idea of an EFF government. ANC is acting with too much inertia on matters of ridding our country of disparities.
 

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Please tell us about the demographics of the top management of MyBB and BusinessTech?
 

Deadmanza

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This is honestly why I am entertaining the idea of an EFF government. ANC is acting with too much inertia on matters of ridding our country of disparities.

Not a single **** was given.
 

Emjay

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****ing yawn.

I was hired as a contractor with less benefits and rights because the hiring company wanted a better BEE scorecard. And it was not some small mickey mouse company either. There was also ZERO chance of any whites being promoted into any leadership positions despite qualifications and/or experience. Even foreigners are placed above whites. Where are the posts or articles about that unfair treatment?

I'll say it again: if you are skilled and white, get out while you can. No point in being treated unfairly for nothing.
 

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Tabea Kabinde, Commission for Employment Equity chairperson, speaks with poison tongue.

Much hangs on what exactly "reserved" means. It's a deliberately equivocal construction.

In the context of race and employment in SA it very quickly raises the spectre of 'job reservation', the apartheid system where certain types of jobs were by law reserved to whites or people of legally privileged race groups (eg the Cape Province was a "Coloured preferential employment area").

The root of that unjust system was that these race-based employment inequalities were enshrined in the law. Though the professions and most jobs were never legally restricted in apartheid South Africa (otherwise Tambo and Mandela, for example, could not have been attorneys in private practice, which they were), the race-based reservation of separate amenities laws, race-based land ownership laws, race-based state schooling laws (private schools could admit Blacks, and Catholic ones did), and race-based marriage and residential laws meant that a large and far-reaching structure of racial discrimination was imposed by force of law on all the people of SA.

This was manifestly unjust, and SA's system of legally imposed racial discrimination rightly incurred the opprobrium of the civilised world.

So, when Tabea Kabinde and the CEE say that top privileges are "still reserved" to Whites, what exactly does she mean?

Starting in 1990, not a single race-based law in SA was being enforced, and by mid-1993 the entire corpus of race-based laws in SA had been scrapped and abolished from the statue books. It's what made the open elections in 1994 legally possible.

So what exactly does the chairperson of the Commission for Employment Equity mean by "reserved".

She seems to forget that it was her government that reintroduced race-based laws in South Africa. One wonders when she will see the elephant in the room.

In the meantime, the way she uses "reserved" is equivocal, reckless, and perhaps even inflammatory.
 
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So what they're saying is because they can't keep it in their pants they must now run business. They are free to start their own business. Probably easier to stuff up something someone else built up than building it up yourself. Oooo... I forgot, Jan Van Riebeeck came here, found cities, civilization, and he destreoyed it all. The Voortrekkers came all the way on Oxwagon, ditching the 500km/h vehicles that were here in the early 1800s designed by Africans to what is now Gauteng. Took all the cities here as well and detroyed it into fields with buggerall on it. They took the gold items, and stuff the gold back into the earth.
 

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This is honestly why I am entertaining the idea of an EFF government. ANC is acting with too much inertia on matters of ridding our country of disparities.

I would also love that. Taking into consideration that the chances are high that there will be a civil war soon once the EFF are in government. And that would mean, since you are a woman, you will most likely be raped, you won't be murdered, you would be kept alive, and raped again, and again, and again. There won't be food, you'll be dying a slow, painfull death. And people will turn against each other because of hunger and they'll even kill their own family for a bit of food. But hopefully your types eyes will open then, but ...it will be too late.
 

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The biggest problem is that there is close to zero job creation.
If jobs are not created, then there is nowhere to move to.
If we had job creation, then it would not be necessary to retard job opportunities for <10% of the population.
 

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I would also love that. Taking into consideration that the chances are high that there will be a civil war soon once the EFF are in government. And that would mean, since you are a woman, you will most likely be raped, you won't be murdered, you would be kept alive, and raped again, and again, and again. There won't be food, you'll be dying a slow, painfull death. And people will turn against each other because of hunger and they'll even kill their own family for a bit of food. But hopefully your types eyes will open then, but ...it will be too late.

always when its too late, people like ngwe think its just stories read about in book or the internet, it will never happen to them because black people will never do that to other black people, there is a romantic respect and imaginary honor amongst each other... lol

the rest of africa moved down to south africa because they have experienced it first hand, south africans are spoilt and believe it could never happen here, the ones that moved down here know, they can see it coming, they have experienced it, thats why they are here...


anyway, black privilege is in the workplace now, aka BEE & AA

privilege meaning - "a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group"
 

kripstoe

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The biggest problem is that there is close to zero job creation.
If jobs are not created, then there is nowhere to move to.

This ^

Let's assume ALL white people have jobs - which is not the case. Let's say the white population is 8-9%. If we remove ALL white people from active employment, refill with EE appointments, you still have a HUGE chunk of people unemployed. Not solving anything.

Stupid article is stupid.
 
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