World Cup 2010 Debacle: FIFA Asks America to Stand By to Take Over at Short Notice

RichardP

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I want the WC2010 here in SA .. I wanna show the rest of the world that SA is capable of

Tender Irregulatities, Kickbacks, Bribery and such.... they are sports in their own right. There are already irregularities in Gautrain... its gonna be out-dated before its done.
 

Xanthus

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Gatecrasher, you speak alot of sense. W/d.

I'm not gonna promise to eat my post, but I'm not counting SA out just yet...

I remember the doom and gloom surrounding the last Olypimc Games in Greece. I read articles about how the stadiums were rubble, derelict and wondered how many people were going to give me dirty looks when I (proudly) mention that I'm Greek.

But I could swear I heard a few respected opinions along the lines of "Best Olypmic Games ever". At least in terms of hosting. Attendance wasn't brilliant... Especially football.

Ok, just one more thing to keep in mind. THEY'RE GERMAN.
Who on Earth wants to compete with them in terms of efficiency? 0_o Not me. My stepmom's German. We call her the drill sergeant :D

If success in 2010 = a repeat of 2006 to you... Well... *singin* "He's got hiiigh hopes, he's got hiiiigh hopes". But who knows... Only time will tell.
 

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This issue is getting for too emotive. Lets focus on the facts. http://www.sa2010bid.co.za/default.asp?cId=8515 On the bid site SA's promises are stated and if you look at the dates we are far behind schedule for example soccer city was supposed to be FINISHED April 2007 yet nothing has been done yet.

http://www.sa2010bid.co.za/default.asp?aId=138280 This was posted Feb 2005 Danny Jordaan states that stadiums need to be constructed before June 2008 and construction companies require 36 months to do this should they need to use labour intensive processes. To date no stadiums are under construction .... we are 24 month away from the deadline.


These are the hard facts call me unpatriotic
 

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Carlhead said:
Talking about being patriotic etc. etc. where's our government and what the hell are they doing???

what do you mean... they made a logo :D
 

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Maybe they plan to host the matches at the soccer fields in squatter camps. Every squatter camp has at least one - it's one of the first facilities that gets "erected" after the shabeens.
Also there are good roads and transport (taxis) to and from the townships so that's also sorted out.
I recon we're ready to host the world cup. :rolleyes:

I'm all for being patriotic but how is one supposed to be patriotic if your leaders are a bunch of incompetent and corrupt nitwits? You expect me to be proud of their behaviour and character? Am I expected to be patriotic about our crime levels? Am I supposed to rejoice in BEE and BBBEE policies that now screw me big time even though I wasn't old enough to vote pre 1994?
Talk and more usless talk. More unenforced policies. More costly and worthless name changing.

Maybe I'll become more patriotic when there is actually something to be proud of in this country.
 

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halicon said:
well i have heard talk of shuttle services, etc - but I am bit sceptical. usually there is always more talk then action.

hey those shuttle services are already available, and ready for your and my use. .

They run up and down louis botha avenue, and most of the main roads
 

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telkomsuig said:
This issue is getting for too emotive. Lets focus on the facts. http://www.sa2010bid.co.za/default.asp?cId=8515 On the bid site SA's promises are stated and if you look at the dates we are far behind schedule for example soccer city was supposed to be FINISHED April 2007 yet nothing has been done yet.

http://www.sa2010bid.co.za/default.asp?aId=138280 This was posted Feb 2005 Danny Jordaan states that stadiums need to be constructed before June 2008 and construction companies require 36 months to do this should they need to use labour intensive processes. To date no stadiums are under construction .... we are 24 month away from the deadline.


These are the hard facts call me unpatriotic

The cold hard facts, this is what I was refering too... Thanks for the non-emotional feedback.
 

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kingmonty said:
question: are any of the stadiums going to have a roof?

Durban's new King Senzangakhona Stadium (R1.6 billion, 80000 seater) is going to have a 30-storey arch stretching its entire length from which you can view the city and coastline. The arch supports one of those tent like structures.
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Less than 4 years before matches must be played in it and they haven't even started construction. Probably still on the architechs drawing boards ... uh ... monitors.
 

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halicon said:
if 2010 comes without a hitch and is in fact a succesful and amazing i will eat this post. :D

Reminds me of the time Jack Banister had to eat his newspaper on air after the SA cricket team pulled off a stunning victory in the mid-1990s....

(This is not to be misread as a comment on the likelihood of SA hosting 2010 successfully.)
 

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Or more like every aussie having to eat their words after we beat them in that greatest ODI...:)
 

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ok, so in the heart of winter they plan to have one stadium with a "roof"... great planning, what about Cape Town where the rain may well be torrential during winter?
 

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kingmonty said:
ok, so in the heart of winter they plan to have one stadium with a "roof"... great planning, what about Cape Town where the rain may well be torrential during winter?

I think they need to start planning when to start the construction of the stadiums only then should they worry about that :D
 

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Xanthus, you cant even begin to compare Athens 2004 to SA 2010. As a Greek born and raised in SA and now living in Greece, I can tell you that the two situations are totally different. While the international community was worried over the Games a few years and even months before they opened in Athens, the Greeks were giving their infrastrucuture a major boost. One of the biggest airports in Europe was being built, a metro line linking the whole city was being developed, a tram system was put in place, inter and intra city busses and taxi services were revamped and the whole bus system was even modified, a trolley (like a tram/train running on electricity alone) system was put into place, and all this was occuring while Greece already had first world transportation facilities before the Games. Apart from transport, buildings and hotels in and around the CBD were revamped and renovated, roads and massive bridges over the sea were being constructed, 16 brand new sporting facilities were built as well as a huge Olympic village which is now occupied by workers. I dont see SA doing even one eighth of any of this.

The whole reason as to why Greece wanted the Games was purely driven by a desire for the government at the time to use such an opportunity to give the economy a massive boost, in order to compete with other EU economies on an equal level. The benefits of the Games are being felt today, even though the debt which has to be paid is a natural strain on any host city and/or country. The South Africans had the chance to give their transport facilities and basic infrastructure a huge boost with the Cup but alas, 3 years later everything is still on the drawing board. FIFA didnt give the Cup to Africa so SA could make an idiotic point regarding whether Africa can host the Cup or not, it was a chance for Africa to uplift the continents economy, by giving the Cup to Africa's economic giant. By 2012, no one will care whether SA could or could not host the Cup. The ones who will care will be the locals. Will their lives get better after the Cup? Will they benefit from the upliftment programs implemented in the economy and via the infrastructural changes that occured, or will they mainly just be paying off the expense of th Cup through taxes for the next 50 years?

Introducing shuttles for a month isnt a solution to the long term problems in SA. Firstly, the crime needs to be faced with a no-tolerance approach. Secondly, the development and upliftment programs should have been implemented years ago. And thirdly, the Cup should have been seen as an opportunity to make life better for the average South African in the future. I doubt the mine worker who earns R 1000 a month will claim his life will be better in 5 years because he can watch Chiefs once every so often play in a new stadium. The basic needs of the people should have been addressed before luxuries such as massive stadiums. After all, the whole point of the Cup is to benefit the people of the host country, not to make a point to the rest of the world.
 

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May I ask what you put in the search engine to drag this story up?
 

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why measure against germany??????? makes no sense

what sa can offer is closer to brazil / argentina and that's where the comparisons should be drawn
 

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I am also struggling to find anything on this story anywhere....

The german link goes to a tabloid newspaper site. You are as likely to find a story about a three headed prostitute at the same time...

In regard to the rain question. Football gets played in the rain, what is your point?
 

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We will host. We will make it the best we possibly can. Our team will get past the group stages. This is my fervent hope and belief.

We cannot fail. Africa is depending on us.
Blatter is depending on us.:D

Whilst not exactly comparable, I do recall the same sentiments being expressed before the RWC 2005.
 

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why measure against germany??????? makes no sense

what sa can offer is closer to brazil / argentina and that's where the comparisons should be drawn

Ok but the last time brazil or argentina hosted the games was in 1950 and 1978 respectivly. Mexico hosted them last in 1986.

I would say the world has changed a bit since then.
 
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