World Cup 2010 Debacle: FIFA Asks America to Stand By to Take Over at Short Notice

jontyB

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I won't dispute your figures. You have not taken into account the benefits to be derived from the event and translated that into rands and cents.

Job creation.
Assetts left after the event.
Good will created. Future investment.
Education. Teaching people to run their own businesses eg.
infrastructure
Telecoms improvment.
airport upgrades will pay for themselves eventually. (Do you think you park and fly for free from our airports)

The mistake in these instances is always to calculate the direct costs without calculating the benefits and traslating them into rands and cents.
If you want to do this exersize then do it completely. Consider both sides of the balance sheet.

I don't know that we'll recover all costs in this manner, but I hazard, niether do you.
I am not an expert in WC2010.

I retain a positive outlook for the event and hope it gives us as much as possible. Do you?
I agree. If there is a quantifiable way to determine the rand value of the benefits, then that exercise should be done in parallel to the cost calculations. However, things like job creation. People are going to be employed for a period of say 3 years building stadiums. Then what?

Goodwill will be damaged the day the first WC2010 tourist is raped and/or murdered. It will be gone if this happens a few times.

Infrastructure: the building of infrastructure is vital - and should be an ongoing task of a government, not a specially sanctioned task to host an event. In terms of the million dollar stadiums - how is that going to benefit the country once the event has come and gone? So the average soccer supporter will pay a higher ticket price to see his favourite team play on fancier turf?

Airport upgrades are also vital, but once again, at what cost? The current upgrades to JIA has been going on for years. It is already impossible (and costly) to find parking there. Dare I even mention that several hundred homes are about to be appropriated for expansion to the airport, at a so far unmentioned cost?

Education in terms of teaching people to run their own businesses? I don't follow - most of the businesses that will be established for the event will not be sustainable. Bed & breakfasts will disappear as quickly as they appeared, for example.

Telecoms improvement. I'm sorry but I strongly disagree here. For 10 years consumers have been ripped off severely by telecoms providers. Any new telecoms enhancements and improvements never affect the poor.

I understand your wish to be positive on this event. I am just saddened that a country as great as SA will attempt to host this event at the cost of its very own people.
 
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Omac

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Jonty, we'll just have to wait and see and reserve the right to say I told you so.

One thing I will agree with is that at the mo, things do not appear to be on track.

The positive spin - things are moving in the right direction.:D

Thats all my opinion!!
 

GavinMannion

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"Chinese to build 2010 stadiums" What a hysterical media headline.

Mbeki says that the Chinese can bid to build the stadiums and all of a sudden they are building them?

Here is a hint for the future, take what politicians say with a pinch of salt. If they are with foreign politicians ignore them completely.
 

Freshy-ZN

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The things that scare me in that article are things like:

"President Thabo Mbeki has called on Chinese enterprises to bid for the construction of stadiums for the 2010 World Cup."

and

"A Berlin firm of architects has been awarded contracts to design three of the stadiums for the 2010 World Cup.

Time check: The end of 2006. Shouldnt these thing be at a more advanced stage?
 

jontyB

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The things that scare me in that article are things like:

"President Thabo Mbeki has called on Chinese enterprises to bid for the construction of stadiums for the 2010 World Cup."

and

"A Berlin firm of architects has been awarded contracts to design three of the stadiums for the 2010 World Cup.

Time check: The end of 2006. Shouldnt these thing be at a more advanced stage?

What scares me about that is that Danny Jordaan and various other ANC bigwigs come out almost weekly and say "We're on track! This will be the best world cup ever!!!"
Are we going to be ready?
 

dlk001

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The things that scare me in that article are things like:

"President Thabo Mbeki has called on Chinese enterprises to bid for the construction of stadiums for the 2010 World Cup."

and

"A Berlin firm of architects has been awarded contracts to design three of the stadiums for the 2010 World Cup.

Time check: The end of 2006. Shouldnt these thing be at a more advanced stage?

I'm sure the government and private sector are confident about progress. Let's remember, its a combined effort from both.
 
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GavinMannion

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Oh look our american screaming racist is back...

Yay I can hardly contain myself.. I see you got nailed by BTTB in the other thread for posting racist links... nice...
 
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