Wormage and the CAP.

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Analyzing my firewall drop logs today, shows that over the last 6 days I've received a grand total of 3Megabytes of unwanted traffic that got filtered by my firewall.

Has anyone else ever mailed Hellkom with this kind of statistics/firewall logs and demanded a refund for "unwanted" traffic that just got nailed as part of your CAP?

Most of the sources of this traffic is other local ADSL IP's, so I'm assuming we have a lot of friends currently infected with Sasser. Why should their inability to keep virii off their systems affect my CAP?



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Heya Rodent,

I tried this a while back when one of good old SIAX's pc's got infected and nailed our link with a couple of MB's .... No joy.. they indicated that ANY traffic generated on the link is MY responsibility.

I doubt you'll have much joy. I regularly send a mail to their abuse adress with the IP details og those infected with virri etc... don't even get a response.

Good luck

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This virus has brought SA internet access to it's knees. I think it is the main cause international access has been so slow. Thanks to Telcrap cap not allowing ADSL users to update.

If it's 3mb on average per user, imagine the volume created globally.

These virus writers should be shot. They either belong to the al-queda network, or are employed by one of the virus companies [:p]

Probably Symantec... [}:)] better yet.. Telscum [:p]

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And goes further to prove that Dynamic IP's are counter productive.

If I had a fixed IP, my PC wouldn't be getting the last mans packets and possible virus traffic.

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For Pete's sake...

Yes, I know you would all like to have your own static IP address to serve your pornography and warez from, but it just doesn't work that way, even Telscum can't really do anything about that.

IP ranges these days are asigned to ISPs by the IANA and ARIN/RIPE with the specific stipulation that they MUST be dynamic. This is called conservation of IP address space and should be fairly simple to understand.

The problem is that they U.S. government initially assigned IP address blocks unanimously, thus taking for themselves the bulk of all internet address space. This persists until today, most of the routable IP addresses on the internet belong to U.S. government institutions and universities, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

What remained was given to the IANA and was in turn devided between ARIN, RIPE and a few other smaller registries.

These registries have a hard time, because there are not nearly enough IPs left for the entire world once Uncle Sam has allocated off his share.

Network block allocation rules around the world clearly state that ISPs wishing to have a block assigned for dial-up, cable or xDSL service must allocate the IP addresses dynamically.

There is a provision which allows ISPs to also request a static range and allocate static IPs to some customers on request, but these IPs must be leased, you just don't get you own routable IP or netblock for free.

Telkom of course do not offer such a service, which is reprehensable, but won't change unless somebody writes a long letter to ICASA.

However, the thought that everybody using an ADSL line should get their own static IP just because they have an ADSL line is rediculous. You won't even see this happening over seas.

There is a scheme in place for everyone to get their own static IP, but that won't happen on today's internet and probably won't happen for another 20 years or so.

The plan is known as IPv6 (or IP version 6) and is meant to replace the current IPv4 Internet Protocol standard.

IPv6 addresses are 128 bits wide, as opposed to the current 32 bit width of the IPv4 address space. With IPv6, it would be theoretically possible for every person on Earth today to have a net block of approximately three million IP addresses assigned to them, to do with as they please.

IPv6 has already been actively deployed in heavily populated parts of Japan. Japan got one of the smallest shares of the world's IPv4 IP addresses, so instead they use real IPv6, with IPv6 to IPv4 tunneling and translation to connect to normal internet hosts.

The problem standing in the way of the world wide adoption of IPv6 are the overseas ISPs for which everyone seems to have so much praise. IPv6 is already in use at many overseas universities and government or military institutions.

IPv4, however, remains the protocol of choice for large ISPs and internet backbones, because it is cheaper.

To adopt IPv6, everyone would have to simultaniously upgrade their routers to IPv6 capability, or replace routers that can't be upgraded. For large ISPs or backbones, this means spending money on upgrading or replacing thousands of routers. Their profit margin would drop drastically, so they aren't interested.

The bottom line, if you are so unhappy about your dynamic IP address, pettition ICASA to force Telkom register a static range and offer static addresses to ADSL users at an additional monthly lease fee, or pettition the world's ISPs and internet backbones to upgrade or replace all of their routing equipment in one go.

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Fair comments podo.

As an intresting reseach article have a look at: http://bgp.potaroo.net/ipv4/

Current trends indicate:
Complete Exhaustion of all available IPv4 Address Space: October 2041
Exhaustion of the IPv4 Unallocated Address Pool: June 2020


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I for one can say that in the UK it's standard to be offered a block of 8 static ip's with business adsl account from BT.
 

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reech:

That's not uncommon, but remember, that's the business ADSL offering. You probably won't find the same thing on home user ADSL offerings.

It's not abnormal for a business to need routed IP address space to host web servers, process e-mail, handle VPN traffic, etc.

For such applications, anyone is well within their rights to want to have a static IP or a block of addresses.

You will find though, that you pay more for your routed addresses than Harry P. Homeuser pays for his ADSL line with a DHCP assigned IP address.

There's also the technical implications to consider. Routable static IP addresses must be set up at the client side, assigning them via DHCP would be a nightmare as the static IP you are paying for could still change due to a collision or DHCP server failure.

Most home users and small businesses lack the technical expertise to set up an IP network with real routing and static addresses assigned to each machine. Having static IP addresses for all ADSL users would mean each user would have to phone Telkom technical support to find out which IP or netblock they have been allocated, and set it up themselves, or hire somebody to set it up at a high call-out and labour rate, which most people just won't accept.

I agree that Telkom should provide such a service to people that need it, but to expect it to be standard with all ADSL subscriptions is unreasonable, as they would be violating the agreement under which their subnet was assigned to them.

The big problem here is that Telkom have no interest in offering such a service, as this would mean many businesses can say goodbye to their Diginet line and use the much cheaper, much faster, ADSL service instead.

Ideally, they should offer a business ADSL service with no capping, or a greatly increased cap, and a routable IP or netblock. Such a service would probably cost more than the standard ADSL line, but even at a reasonable rate of R2000 per month, would be much cheaper than using Diginet.

An uncapped business ADSL service is already available in South Africa, a-la DataPro, but this is too expensive for most home users, with the total costs including line rental possibly going as high as R2200 per month.

If DataPro were to offer static IP addresses or netblocks with their service, even with a higher lease fee, it would certainly be a viable alternative to Diginet, at a much more acceptable price.

Sadly, the only way we would get Telkom to offer such a service, at a reasonable price, would be to pettition ICASA, who seem to have gone from forward-thinking regulator, to progress-impeding co-monopolist, almost overnight.

ICASA have even gone so far as to grab themselves a piece of the pie for any kind of communications in South Africa. Pretty much anyone wanting to operate any terrestrial or wireless network in South Africa, now have to pay ICASA a sometimes exhorbitant license fee for the privilege.

People wanting to use the 802.11b or 802.11g wireless LAN (also known as Wi-Fi) standard to communicate find themselves having to pay R5000 per year, per frequency channel, to be able to use the frequency legally. The 2.4GHz frequency band in which these devices operate, is an internationally agreed upon unlicensed frequency for amateur high bandwidth radio use.

Back when we still had the evil SATRA regulating South African communications, 2.4GHz was an unlicensed band, and we were even fortunate enough to have the MegaWan phenomenon around in Gauteng for a year or two.

MegaWan, of course, collapsed because of bad quality of internet service and customer service, but the point remains, with ICASA in place, MegaWan would not have been able to operate, unless they were willing to pay huge license fees.

Sentech are offering routable IPs and netblocks, but only on with their VSTAR (IP/voice over VSAT) offering. VSTAR is many times more expensive than the home user targeted MyWireless offering, which doesn't offer any such services.

As to the original complaint about IP addresses changing so often that you "get the last man's traffic," I can only advise you all to invest in some more robust equipment.

We use Telkom as our ISP and have consistently managed to use the same IP address for a full ten days. Ten days is the maximum lease time allowed for by the DHCP standard.

Our PPPoE client is the standard user space ppp program on FreeBSD. We use the D-Link DSL300G ADSL Ethernet modem, which is acting only as a bridge to the FreeBSD system. The DSL300G does not have an allocated IP address, only a private RFC 1918 address used to administer it from our network.

Even with the disconnection every 24 hours, our network continues to function normally, the PPPoE client simply re-establishes the connection immediately after it goes down, and since it is fully compliant with the DHCP standard, it has the capability to ask the DHCP server to confirm its previous lease, which has not expired.

In this way, our IP address only changes once every ten days, when the lease does expire, and our PPPoE client automatically requests a new IP address.

The PPPoE client also simulates the old interface addresses on the active PPP interface, thus allowing the NAT to seamlessly re-establish connections that were open before the address change.

The FreeBSD machine acting as our router, firewall and network address translater was put together in about three hours from an old Pentium 166. FreeBSD can be downloaded from any mirror listed on http://www.freebsd.org/ as an ISO image.

Burned to a CD, the ISO image produces a bootable CD-ROM with everything you need to install FreeBSD. The FreeBSD Handbook is included and available in HTML format on the system. This will provide all the instructions needed to get the system running.

To get PPPoE working over ADSL, with any ADSL Ethernet modem that can function as a bridge, simply follow the instructions in the FreeBSD PPPoE HOWTO, which can be found at: http://www.oneyed.org/fribi-adsl.html

The D-Link DSL300G Ethernet modem has a built in PPPoE client, but no real NAT capabilities, and so should not be used as anything apart from a bridge. The DSL300G modem we are using here was purchased for R750, and provides excellent stability and performance.

I can highly recommend this solution, it will greatly improve the performance of your ADSL line and will keep the IP changes to a minimum, without violating any rules or standards.

Once you have the FreeBSD system running, you can also set it up to act as a mail server, FTP server, or anything, for your home or small office network.

Setting up such a network does require some technical skill, but I find it very rewarding to use, and I think the time I spent setting it all up was well worth it.

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- static IP's are available to most home adsl users in the UK - while not standard offering - their availability is pretty much standard - and it's there if you want it.
Yes you certainly do pay more - but it's all pretty transparent if it's run on a rental per IP model (generally about £2/month).
It may difficult for a standard home user to setup - but they're not forced to use it - the point being that it's there if they'd like it.

I'm not saying that each all users should be forced to use static IP's - rather that they should be avaialable should you want to use them. I find your solution elegant, but it's by no means a robust replacement for a static ip.
 

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Podo. I have installed quite a few FreeBSD gateways and I have one common problem.

People will play! No matter what you do, they will play with it.

And dont forget the age old proverb;
"Maintenance free: When something does go wrong there is nothing left to maintain."

Static IP assignment isnt really that big a deal. To have it as a default option however would require a lot more work per user when you get new accounts. Considering Telkom have "16000" ADSL customers, thats a rather insane routing table to manage I guess.

IPv6 changes that, the problem though is we are a long way off from that. Japan may very well use it privately but at this stage alot of the IPv6 network is still tunneled over IPv4 (almost codependant). Single points of failure are still too common on the IPv6 network with native IPv6 peering points being few and far between. 6Bone basicly is still unreliable, and too much software does not support the IPv6 addressing scheme to lazyness of the coders, and because the ISP's have not implemented it to a large enough extent.

The reasons ISP's have not implemented it to a large enough extent is that few programs properly support it (Including server side programs, DNS, common mail deamons and web servers; most of which really on dodgey 3rd party patches/hacks to enable IPv6 compliance) and thus there is little to no consumer demand. Even a hosting provider I chose due to their native IPv6 routing told me "It's not one of our priorities" when the peering was out for over a week.

Still, it is quite alot of work to ipv6 enable a large network, especialy ones like SAIX's using Cisco routing hardware much of which would require long downtime to upgrade and loss of revenue. IPv6 wont make them money basicly, and the upgrades and faults due to them can cost them alot more than they might make.

On the same token IMHO they should not disregard it.

The issue is that Telkom simply dont offer the option of a static IP on ADSL ( not that it isnt a standard feature ) and that they force IP resets every 12h or something to ensure that you *can't* have a permenant connection let alone IP. Thats obviously a blatent attempt to force use of diginet lines for people that need real guranteed static connections and static IP's (and they make a hell of a lot of money off of them)

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Some very intereting comments from all on this thread.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by podo</i>
<br />For Pete's sake... However, the thought that everybody using an ADSL line should get their own static IP just because they have an ADSL line is rediculous. You won't even see this happening over seas.
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Hi Willie,

with all due respect I think you have been indoctrinated.

All the "problems" you have described don't seem to exist !


<b>go here : Australia : </b>
http://www.bigpond.com/internet-plans/broadband/adsl/

Static IP for an extra R50.00 per month
Unlimited 512/128bbps ADSL for R450.00 per month.

<b>go here : New Zealand : </b>
http://www.telecom.co.nz/chm/0,5123,203071-202470,00.html

Unlimited 256kbps ADSL for R500.00 per month

<b>Most importantly go here : </b>REAL ADSL described - compare with telkom adsl !
http://www.telecom.co.nz/chm/0,5123,202904-202470,00.html


The most used word in South Africa (besides expletives) is : "problem"

We must start getting used to the idea of implementing solutions then we will have no "problems".
 

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nice micro

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Podo, you seem to new to this forum.
I spoke Andries Matthysen on Feb 2004. He told me he laid criminal
charges against www.gin.co.za www.wisp.co.za and has given
nobody any permission and will give nobody permission. Please tell me who exactly told you about the R5000 business?

Then he lamented how the police are simply ignoring him. Voip is also
illegal, but the police just won't do anything about it.
At http://sawireless.tripod.com reasons are provided as to why Sentech's entrance has opened the floodgates for long distance 30km
wi-fi communication.
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Karnaugh</i>
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The issue is that Telkom simply dont offer the option of a static IP on ADSL ( not that it isnt a standard feature ) and that they force IP resets every 12h or something to ensure that you *can't* have a permenant connection let alone IP. Thats obviously a blatent attempt to force use of diginet lines for people that need real guranteed static connections and static IP's (and they make a hell of a lot of money off of them)

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Collin,

As far as I can tell, that isn't the case. They do disconnect your PPPoE link every 24 hours, but they do not force an IP release. The disconnection doesn't really have any effect on us, our PPPoE client redials immediately [}:)]

Their DHCP servers actually seem to be standards compliant. Even with the disconnects, I have managed to use the same IP for ten days straight, without doing anything special, each time.

After ten days of course, the maximum DHCP lease time runs out and my machine *HAS* to ask for a new IP. That's pretty standard anywhere though.

I think the forced resets people are complaining about are the automatic disconnections every 24 hours. These are apparently designed to allow Telkom to enforce the cap. Once you have been capped, your DHCP lease will automatically expire, and you will be allocated an IP in a capped range.

It seems however that most people have their IP change on every disconnect. The only likely explanation I can offer for this is that they are running Windows. Because Windows doesn't comply with or confirm to any standard, it's more than likely that Windows machines think they have to get a new lease every time they reconnect.

This will cause Telkom's disconnection to act as a forced reset. It is also extremely annoying if you run a DHCP server with Windows on your network, as some older Windows machines even seem to take out the new lease without cancelling the old, meaning you have unused IPs that are unavailable to other users.

I agree that Telkom should be offering the service. I would certainly have a use for it, I absolutely hate having to get my mail with fetchmail, but we probably won't see that happening unless we all write to ICASA, I am just too lazy for that battle.

Telkom will, of course, offer the excuse that it is not technically possible for them to offer a static IP address. This is because of they way they implement the cap. They do not use propper traffic shaping to implement the cap, instead, they route you over an extremely slow and congested international connection.

To achieve this effect, they must force you into an IP range that is routed through the slow connection.

The bulk of their excuse to ICASA will state that they can not provide static IP service because this would effectively prevent them from implementing the cap.

That is not correct, naturally, as they could just as easily implement the cap by having a cron job add traffic shaping rules for offending IP addresses to some piece of routing or shaping equipment automatically.

That's really hard though, seeing as Telkom's "highly trained Cisco and UNIX engineers" don't know how to write even the most basic shell scripts... [:D]

John,

I've heard about this business from two seperate sources. The first person is part of a consortium attempting to set up a (legal) wireless ISP for rural areas in the Free State. To serve internet connections to farms, small town schools, etc. Of course, the person who told me about this was very reluctant to give me any details at all, not even contact numbers.

The second is *MUCH* more intriguing. A small ISP I used to do remote admin work for in the past have been providing wireless access service "illegally" for some time now.

Another ISP in the same town have been doing the same thing for almost as long, and a third ISP recently jumped in, also trying to compete for the same small market.

Recently, the ISP I had contact with were approached by a representative from ICASA about their "alleged unlicensed use of the ISM band."

They co-operated with this person and allowed him to milk them for information. It appears that they were reported to ICASA by one of their competitors, but that ICASA are somehow aware (or bluffing) that the competitors are also using the ISM band.

From what I can understand from the information given to me, it appears they may have struck some sort of deal where by they are allowed to apply for an ISM band license for one frequency channel, and in exchange, will point out to ICASA investigators the frequency channels and locations of base stations in use by their competitors.

The whole thing seems quite skull-duggerous to me to be quite honest. It almost seems as if ICASA are handing out licenses exclusively to those willing to rat out their compettition. That's dangerous.

Of course, this is all second hand information, and I can't state any of this authoritatively. If any of this is accurate though, I think we should all be supremely worried about the state of our regulator. [8)]

Will

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Podo,

Please expand on this comment:
"Because Windows doesn't comply with or confirm to any standard, it's more than likely that Windows machines think they have to get a new lease every time they reconnect."
 

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Willie your story is plausible. My approach is that of opensource.
A whole community sets up their own thing and no one single person
is responsible. I will try not to repeat what is written on my
site, discussing these things helps me to update information.

The trouble with commercial ISP's are they don't have
the money to hire expensive lawyers, they are barely making a profit
and simply can't afford to get into a battle with Icasa.

Their repeaters are on mountains where Icasa can easily confiscate the stuff, in the opensource model everybody will pitch in to build a longdrop for Phinias on the mountain. PHinias will sign all the forms, making him fully responsible. The law only applies if you are non-disadvantaged.

With an opensource model, a confiscated highsite will be budgeted for.
And only AFTER a highsite is taken down, will it be restored with
Phinias now renting a longdrop, under the tower. (see the site
http://sawireless.tripod.com)

My angle is that the opensource community should rather take the money
that would have been the profit for the commercial ISP and use it to
pull these legal stunts.

It is far easier if 50 people work together for the common good,
then expecting one poor sod, to run around dealing with broken
AP's and dealing with ICASA. The people who built Linux did not throw
a tantrum when something did not work, they just patiently waited
for a patch. You can't expect people who pay you R500 for internet
on debit order to listen to your story about how Icasa just nailed
your highsite.

The regulator can bully the commercial ISP because he just forked out
R200 000 of Ouma's last nestegg to purchase 50 AP's. His problem
is not going to Jail or court, he simply can't afford to loose all
that money, so he gives in.

If not even half of the myadsl forum can understand the legal stunt of building a longdrop, how that will go over with non-computer literate people? And people are so racist they don’t know the difference between a 60 year old ‘madala’ and a brutalised 21 year old
highjacker.

Icasa can't ENTER YOUR RESIDENCE. They only go after the commercial providers, Andries was adamant about this to me on the phone. I should have recorded what he said. Here is a soundbite:

" Ek mag nie n binne in iemand se huis
ingaan om bokse rond te skop nie ek ondersoek net mense
wat wi-fi internet vir wins doeleinders adverteer"

"Net die commercial voorsieners word krimineel aangekla, nie die klient nie"

"Ek het niemand toestemming gegee vir wi-fi nie, en sal ook nie, dit is onwettig"

Sentech is not operational in Bloemfontein yet, so there are not supposed to be 18dbi panel antenna’s on anybody’s roof. If only the opensource wi-fi community would form a powerblock and partner with Sentech.

Please be patient if I am repeating myself on this forum, but this whole thing should be thrashed out, by discussing it over and over again.
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dikbek</i>
<br />Podo,

Please expand on this comment:
"Because Windows doesn't comply with or confirm to any standard, it's more than likely that Windows machines think they have to get a new lease every time they reconnect."

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dikbek,

The DHCP standard by which IPs are assigned to machines automatically provides for the client machines to "lease" their IP addresses. These leases are always time limited, to a period usually set by the server operator. The default is the maximum lease period of ten days.

When a machine first connects to a network, it searches for a DHCP server. Upon finding such a server, it asks the server to assign an IP address and a lease to it. The server then provides an IP address and a lease, DNS server information, routing information and the time at which the lease expires.

Once a DHCP lease expires, it is removed from the server's assignment table and the machine holding the lease is forced to release the IP and ask the DHCP server for a new lease.

A provision exists within the DHCP standard to allow machines to lease IP addresses regardless of their connectivity. This allows machines that use PPP links to retain leases on IP addresses even when the link is disconnected.

Once the link is re-established, the client machine contacts the server and explains that it holds the lease on an IP address and the lease does not expire until a given time. The server checks its assignment table and confirms this. Once confirmed, the client machine is allowed to continue using the IP address.

When a lease runs out, the client machine releases the IP address and contacts the DHCP server asking to lease a new address. At this point, the machine's IP address must change.

The problem with the frequent IP address changes on Telkom's ADSL network is that Windows does not fully comply with this standard. Once a PPP (or any other link) is disconnected, Windows considers the IP address it had been allocated to use on that link released.

This creates two problems. The first is for the server operator. The server continues to hold the lease open until it has expired, this can be up to ten days, because it has not been contacted by the Windows machine and does not know that the Windows machine has released the IP address. This means that many addresses in a subnet can sometimes lie in limbo for several days, where they are not being used, but can not be reallocated by the server.

The second problem is for the client. Because Windows automatically considers the IP to be released, it will never check with a DHCP server wether it can continue to use an old (valid) lease once a connection has been re-established. This means, each time a Windows machine is disconnected from a PPP link, the Windows machine forces itself (through bad design) to change IP addresses.

If Windows were more compliant with the DHCP standard, and bothered to confirm valid leases upon reconnecting, the daily disconnect forced on us by Telkom would have no effect unless you had exceeded the cap, in which case the Radius server instructs the DHCP server to prematurely terminate the lease, forcing the client machine to request a new IP address lease.

In my case, the daily disconnect has very little effect on our use of IP addresses. My PPPoE client considers a disconnection on a permanent line an error and without prompting or waiting for any "re-dial delay period", immediately re-establishes the PPPoE connection, without even taking the PPPoE interface offline.

Once reconnected (about 20 milliseconds later) the PPPoE client's built in DHCP client immediately asks the server to confirm its old lease. Unless the lease happened to expire exactly in the time of the disconnect, the server confirms that the client can continue using the lease until it expires.

In this way, we have been using the same IP address for ten days straight. Also, we haven't even noticed the effect of the daily disconnect. The IP address changes once every ten days when the lease expires, but because our PPPoE client's NAT also keeps the old address open on a virtual interface, any remaining connections are redirected via the new IP address, meaning the lease expiring also has very little effect on our connectivity.

Sadly, as has been pointed out in previous posts by other users, the equipment and software I use to operate my ADSL line isn't standard Telkom stock issue and does require some technical skill to set up and configure. Most home and small business users won't think it worth the effort.

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Er. Chaps? Can we get back on topic here? My point is that, I cannot do anything about the ****loads of traffic I'm just blindly receiving, and then dropping on my end. Yet, it still counts towards my CAP.

rpm, could you please raise that as an issue with Telkom, if you have any further discussions with them, please?


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