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Id first have to start pirating. Pirating requires broadband. My 3G connection doesnt count as broadband.
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Would you stop pirating if you were "educated"?
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DA-LION-619
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I have a library of 100 Steam games which I could pirate. And I don't use any Adobe software, except Acrobat, which ironically is free. It was just an example as to why people do it, and it's true, whether you agree or not.
:crylaugh: the whole debate is based around the fact that it's the exact opposite.
And see my reply to Chevron to see why I actually don't cause them any problems.
The difference with Steam you can't sell the games, if you buy Photoshop. You can sell it.
An (educated) friend who I know is worth over R500m still pirates. He says it is the easiest way he can see what he wants when he wants. If a supplier provided a reliable service, he would use it. He already subscribes to Amazon, Netflix, Roku and 4 music streaming sites and has a 100mb fibre service
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
Educated has nothing to do with it.
Simply provide me with the content in a digital format WHEN I want to watch it and not on someone else's pre-defined schedule and I'll happily pay for it.
The problem more often than not is that there is no legal means to accomplish this so they weren't going to see my money anyway. Is it really piracy if you couldn't pay for it in the first place?
Simply provide me with the content in a digital format WHEN I want to watch it and not on someone else's pre-defined schedule and I'll happily pay for it.
The problem more often than not is that there is no legal means to accomplish this so they weren't going to see my money anyway. Is it really piracy if you couldn't pay for it in the first place?
SauRoNZA
Honorary Master
Exactly my opinion as per my post above.
I have Netflix and Amazon Prime (which I hardly use since it's a botched launch with regards to localized Xbox/Playstation apps and doesn't have Apple TV support) as well as Apple iTunes Store and Apple Music service.
Anything not available on those I pirate for a lack of other options, not because I don't want to pay for it.
Educated pirate... I am in TV/Film - call it multimedia but some shows, movies and tv series are way too expensive. And DSTV has the same movie everyday or every second day (2 maybe 3 times a day sometimes) and producers and executive producers make coin. The industry is a wicked one.
Piracy doesn't change the fact that GFX, SFX, CG artists and the like, still get paid peanuts while the fat cats who send emails and make phone calls earn the cash.
Piracy doesn't change the fact that GFX, SFX, CG artists and the like, still get paid peanuts while the fat cats who send emails and make phone calls earn the cash.
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Cius
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I really like being legal and supporting the creative industries but I will say I used to pirate a lot as it was prohibitively expensive and difficult to be legal in all things media related. As a kid I pirated games as I had zero cash. Became a gamer as a result and now that I earn some money I buy all my games original. I have even bought most of the games I pirated as a kid from sites like GOG. Point is if I had not pirated as a child I doubt I would be spending money on them now as an adult as I would have found other hobbies so overall my childhood games pirating helped the industry overall. I know of several people in the same boat.
Movies I tend to always watch once in cinema or rent from my local DVD store but after its been on TV I download a copy as I could have recorded it. I know that is technically not legal but its my thing. At least the industry gets some support from me but I don't feel its right to charge someone multiple times for the same thing especially if I could have recorded it off TV.
TV series I used to pirate extensively but now that I have showmax I find I have more than enough stuff to watch without pirating. Have not downloaded a series in over a year although prior to showmax it was the only way I watched TV (downloading myself or borrowing mates HDD's and copying what they downloaded and shared). Have not watched anything via my TV aerial in years. Sometimes I still hanker for a particular favourite TV show that is not on showmax and I am starting to think about downloading again for just one or two as some of them are just not available via showmax or Netflix SA so I feel I have no reasonable option.
Movies I tend to always watch once in cinema or rent from my local DVD store but after its been on TV I download a copy as I could have recorded it. I know that is technically not legal but its my thing. At least the industry gets some support from me but I don't feel its right to charge someone multiple times for the same thing especially if I could have recorded it off TV.
TV series I used to pirate extensively but now that I have showmax I find I have more than enough stuff to watch without pirating. Have not downloaded a series in over a year although prior to showmax it was the only way I watched TV (downloading myself or borrowing mates HDD's and copying what they downloaded and shared). Have not watched anything via my TV aerial in years. Sometimes I still hanker for a particular favourite TV show that is not on showmax and I am starting to think about downloading again for just one or two as some of them are just not available via showmax or Netflix SA so I feel I have no reasonable option.
Reasonable or cheap?
Arthur
Honorary Master
I have a rather different take on it.
This has little to do with being intellectually informed and rather more to do with moral formation and psychological health.
It's rather revealing how many justify their appropriation of other people's paid-for content by "I'll take it when I want it".
In almost all cases, this insistence on instant gratification and the lack of impulse control is but one of the many negative effects of porn addiction.
Poor guys. We are victims of bad parenting. We were never taught to respect other people's property, but fiercely defend our right to our own. So sad to see so many otherwise intelligent, capable and likeable guys live in such slavery to our appetites. I know it's a daily and sometimes hourly battle, but until we men master ourselves the world will continue to fall apart.
/expects major flame
This has little to do with being intellectually informed and rather more to do with moral formation and psychological health.
It's rather revealing how many justify their appropriation of other people's paid-for content by "I'll take it when I want it".
In almost all cases, this insistence on instant gratification and the lack of impulse control is but one of the many negative effects of porn addiction.
Poor guys. We are victims of bad parenting. We were never taught to respect other people's property, but fiercely defend our right to our own. So sad to see so many otherwise intelligent, capable and likeable guys live in such slavery to our appetites. I know it's a daily and sometimes hourly battle, but until we men master ourselves the world will continue to fall apart.
/expects major flame
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At least now we know the reason we pirate and can start to address the problem with inner reflection and prayer. Thank you.
Musiclover08
Senior Member
"This content cannot be accessed in your country"
Nanfeishen
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Downloading is no different than going to a library and taking out a book, the returning of the book after reading is the same as deleting what you have watched after downloading.
As with a book from a library, the author does not recieve payment for your usage , and neither does the publisher.
As with a book from a library, the author does not recieve payment for your usage , and neither does the publisher.
Intellectually it is not possible to view intellectual and physical property as equivalent. Morally it is not possible to consider depriving someone of their physical property as identical to failing to buy a copy of their intellectual material.
In fact you can include letting anyone other than the person that paid for the product use it, so that would include lending, watching together, and so on. Selling an item after using it would also deprive the producers of any additional income.
pinball wizard
Honorary Master
Doesn't Sweden have one of the most educated populations on earth?