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Kosmik said:
People get what they voted for.
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A more accurate statement would be: everyone gets what the majority voted for.

Your definition is correct but excludes those that didn't vote for the corrupt ANC, as they too, get what the ANC voters voted for. :p
 
Swa said:
Those who pay more (and income tax) should have a bigger say.
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In an economy where those who pay actually end up paying for everything, including those who don't, I would be inclined to agree.
 
Swa said:
Those who pay more (and income tax) should have a bigger say.
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Exactly.
I hear the argument for "everyone pays tax" and agree with it somewhat, but what needs to be realised is what impact tax has on your life.
I would argue that somebody paying only VAT feels the impact less than somebody else paying VAT and income tax and all the other forms of taxation and subtle fees. So I feel that the power dynamic is very unfair and being preyed upon.
 
I believe one of the anc ministers said it best. The ANC wants absolute equality, if everyone is poor everyone is equal.
 
Here's a thought. Fire the entire board (again) and implement a COO who knows the business and then assign the right engineers to the various departments (regardless of colour) who know what they doing.

THEN get all the corrupt money back that's been pilfered by the current and past employees and government officials and you won't need to break the citizens of this country to achieve ESKOM sustainability.
 
Keep raising them taxes, you'll just shed more taxpayers until everyone is at the same level of those who deemand, deemand for free
 
Just keep raising the taxes, and keep that gravy train going.

People will just bitch about this around the braai.
 
whatwhat said:
Just keep raising the taxes, and keep that gravy train going.

People will just bitch about this around the braai.
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Many of those fires are now being lighted, but in London. And Perth. And Auckland. And Washington.
 
Edit Man said:
Here's a thought. Fire the entire board (again) and implement a COO who knows the business and then assign the right engineers to the various departments (regardless of colour) who know what they doing.

THEN get all the corrupt money back that's been pilfered by the current and past employees and government officials and you won't need to break the citizens of this country to achieve ESKOM sustainability.
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The current COO doesn't know the business?
 
The death spiral continues. Once we have to get bailouts from the IMF they will hopefully start running the country.
 
Vrotappel said:
The death spiral continues. Once we have to get bailouts from the IMF they will hopefully start running the country.
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Once upon a time, a man and his assistant appeared in a village and announced that he would buy hyaenas for R5 each.

The villagers, knowing there were many hyaenas, went to the forest and started catching them. The man bought thousands at R5 each and as the supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their efforts.

He then announced that he would buy hyaenas at R10 each. This renewed the villagers efforts and they started catching hyaenas again. Soon the supply diminished and hyaenas became so scarce it was an effort to even find one hyaena, let alone catch it.

The man announced that he had to go to the big city on business and on his return would pay R50 per hyaena
His assistant told the villagers, "Look at all these hyaenas in the big cage that my boss has already collected. I will sell them to you at R20 and when my boss returns, you can sell them to him for R50."

The villagers rounded up all their savings & bought all the hyaenas for R700 million. They never saw the man or his assistant again, only lots and lots of hyaenas.

Because the man and his assistant were ANC bigwigs it's easy for us to see how a bailout is designed to work.
 
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