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You know Iraq is in trouble...
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No he has a hangover now, no laughs there. Poor sod, deserved what he got.
They were always there, even before the Iraq invasion, just did not know where to show face. Now they flock to Iraq to fight the "Satan" and fools in South Africa finds sympathy with these sickos.
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Unfortunately, yes.
For the US, it's an issue of national security. All those terrorists they say have been created in Iraq? The US can't afford to have another rogue state filled with American flag-burning Islamofascist radicals that hate their guts.
If you are saying that the war will ONLY go on as long as America is there, that's foolish. Remember, we're dealing with a civil war here. The US has merely accidentallyunleashed--admittedly through mismanagement of the situation--all this Sunn-Shia messiness (probably the largest of its type since the fitnah after the day of the Prophet. But they didn't cause it. In fact, if you look back through Islamic history to the present day, there have been only SIX Ramadans when Muslims have not been fighting each other.
Actually, if you look back through the facts, the whole Sunni-Shia thing should have blown over the violent stages some time ago, like the Catholic-Protestant wars of the 17th century, which no one cares about any more.
But it seems that neither "forget" nor "forgive" is in the Arabic vocabulary.
How'd they create him? With some kind of uber machine? Where in the U.S.A is this lab? No doubt we'll find on record the orders for one each of the following a Kim Jong Il, Ali Khamenei , Ho Chi Min, Hugo Chavez and others of their ilk. Maybe even perhaps a Hitler and Stalin or even a Genghis Khan.
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alan85: you really need to learn how to use a search engine. I recommend: cia, iraq, saddam hussein...How'd they create him? With some kind of uber machine? Where in the U.S.A is this lab? No doubt we'll find on record the orders for one each of the following a Kim Jong Il, Ali Khamenei , Ho Chi Min, Hugo Chavez and others of their ilk. Maybe even perhaps a Hitler and Stalin or even a Genghis Khan.
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I don't have any sympathy for them(US or deluded Jihadists)
If The US stayed in Afghanistan we wouldn't have this mess today
d0b33
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They left
I know they're still there I meant not spread out the battle ie.Iraq
Amazing how we just gloss over the facts: the usa had no right to invade Iraq (it was perpetrated on deliberately created false intel.) They LIED blatantly to the world and the UN. National security? For whom do we blame this? If you come to any answer besides George Bush and his cronies then you are wrong.
Islamofascist radicals: Very funny but not. What does this language tell you? Who INVENTED it?!
Now let's see: america invades a foreign country illegally (then we wonder that the locals get upset.) Civil war? Thanks to whom? I am not looking at history I am looking at TODAY (the only day that really counts!)
Shoulda, woulda, coulda (dumb and dumber)
And who shall we blame for this?! Oooooh ya: that fascist warmongering individual Mohammed. Death to the Infidel. Pleaze.
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Says who? Who attributes wether someone has "rights" to do whatever
I don't recall any other nation claiming they didn't have WMD's
Who invented Neocon?
According to you.
Oh yes, things were just peachy under Saddam
Um, the one fighting the "civil war".
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
d0b33
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Like the US is doing
They are appeasing and groveling at the feet of tyrants. Must be why they are so popular among them.
Oh wait
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Evidently Iraq may have had WMDs until about 1 month before the US invasion.
According to Nayyouf-Nayyuf, a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe, one month before the US invasion Iraq moved most of it's WMD type weapons to three locations in Syria.
- The town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria.
- The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp.
- The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city.
Nayouf even points out who organized the transport.
This info was publish in the Reuters, UK on Jan 21, 2004.
Of course no one is going to know if this is true unless someone decides to invade Syria to check it out. The Syrians sure as hell won't let that sort of info out.
According to Nayyouf-Nayyuf, a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe, one month before the US invasion Iraq moved most of it's WMD type weapons to three locations in Syria.
- The town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria.
- The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp.
- The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city.
Nayouf even points out who organized the transport.
This info was publish in the Reuters, UK on Jan 21, 2004.
Of course no one is going to know if this is true unless someone decides to invade Syria to check it out. The Syrians sure as hell won't let that sort of info out.
d0b33
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There was no hard evidence to support the claim by Nayyouf-Nayyuf
(who knows he probably got a free ticket out of Syria on behalf of the US)
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As someone quipped. America doesn't need proof, they have the sales receipts.
Post-Saddam WMD search
(you pro-bush crowd are really pitiful. When are you going to wake up and realise you've been had!!)
So alan85: in 100 words or less tell me your alternative. You would like the apartheid government to still be in power?I guess we can then join you, the class of '94
Or in fact take as many words as you want. I am still waiting for answers to any question ever asked you. You sir are a troll. You have no answers, no solutions and in fact nothing to say.
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Since this appears to be the crux of your argument, I'll address this section.
Let's assume for a moment that the US invasion was illegal. The American people were duped, Bush is a big fat liar, etc. So what? So does that mean the US should give up and go home? What would that accomplish? To paraphrase your post, if you look at the situation TODAY it remains imperative to US foreign policy (for reasons I have stated above) that they ride it out in Iraq as long as possible.
Civil war? Thanks to whom? I already addressed this, but I think I demonstrated clearly that the US did NOT cause the Sunni-Shia conflict in Iraq. Nothing in the facts suggest this. And why would they? 40 bodies a day--killed by whom? Shias and Sunnis. Excluding tragic incidents like Haditha, American troops are only shooting in self-defense or at insurgents.
I will say however that at this point, I believe the idealistic American vision of an Iraqi democracy is not possible. Perhaps, however, under the guidance of a US-backed benevolent dictator democracy can be introduced.
911 el sicko!
Well to save us going way of topic for now I'll say just this. You didn't have to vote ANC. They were going to win anyway and you were just increasing their majority hence their power. But no you fell hook,line and sinker.
Here we go with this old troll story just because I differ in opinion to you
. *sigh*