Your second hand vehicle suggestions, ±R90,000 budget

[SauRoNZA]

Honda Accord?

 

[chickenbeef]

Accord Exec, finding one with relatively low mileage is a bit more difficult than finding a B7 A4 though

 

[Noob-Noob]

Sorry I forgot the bit about going private. Only car I referred to that was for sale privately was the 1.8 petrol Astra for sale in Robertson. Enjoy trim models do come with armrest, have all round electric windows and 6 airbags. I never got the armrest thing until owning a car that has one.

Alas, if you are going to spend that kind of money and don't mind so much for high mileage my first choice would still be a W203 Class. Just look at that mint condition 2003 C180K with less than 150,000km on the clock going for R82k. Way better deal than the 2008 Astra 1.8 which has 166,000km covered.
http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...rcedes+benz-c+class/1001282532110910021074109
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I would also recommend the W203, but 2004 and upwards, the 2003 (pre-facelift) interior looks k@k and the car self gave me loads of headaches.
Currently I drive a 2004 with 210k km on the clock, had it +-5years and it drives like a absolute dream, besides replacing lights I have not had 1 single mechanical fault on the car, changed the "control arms" on 200k km, but that's it.
Major services cost me R1500, its light on fuel, it has power and I have not had a more reliable car.
Plus where will you get more for the price you pay? Electric windows, Electric mirrors, Electric seats, Climate control, multi-touch steering wheel, automatic head lamps, cruise control, I think in total there is 6 different lights in front not to mention the dash computer which has a lot of uses.
ps. It also has a arm rest

 

[Noob-Noob]

Accord Exec, finding one with relatively low mileage is a bit more difficult than finding a B7 A4 though

What I like about Audi is the older versions and the newer versions looks alike, someone who does not know Audi will find it difficult distinguishing between the B7 and the B8 for an example. Where with Mercedes, the womanz know I drive a old one

 

[PostmanPot]

What derivative does he have? I see a few of the recently posted well-priced Accords have disappeared over the last week, should indicate how quickly they sell.

The MP3 thing is an issue that's cheaply and easily solved by adding Bluetooth with an x-car link and using your phone. Better than outdated MP3 cds.

R80K for a 2007 A4 B7 is really great value though and very tempting, but what's the condition of one of those like? Definitely seems like a bargain if it's in decent nick.

Seventh Generation 2.4 auto. Very nice car with proper comfort. Good sound. Cream leather which makes it very oud*os. The faux wood is a bit of a turnoff.

CDs are quite outdated come to think of it... Your solution does make it easier to consider older cars.

One would need to put in a bit more to find a really decent B7, but there are good looking private ones, with about 150,000km, for around R80 - 90,000. The 2007s are more expensive, mostly due to the new Concert/Symphony II double din radio (with MP3 CD ) which really modernised the interior. I think there are one or two cosmetic differences too.

I feel that the problem is the B7s' value when they reach 200,000km. One would get nailed because of the perception of a 'luxury' vehicle with such a 'high' mileage costing a lot to maintain.

This is where VW is very appealing, because the irony is that they are essentially the same as Audis underneath. Yet people are happier to buy them at higher mileages of 200,000km due to the cheaper/lower maintenance perception. So, if I get something with 150,000km and sell before 200,000km, I stand to lose a lot less. An easier sale too.

It seems I should take advantage of this, in order to lose less.

I'm still seriously contemplating everything that gets mentioned here, but VW definitely has a draw card when it comes to getting as much as possible out of it.

 

[PostmanPot]

I might view this today. Looks to be in good nick, I can only see some peeling of the top right centre console buttons (although it could be something else, hopefully). No steering controls on most of the the B6es.

They are so similar to the B7 (my ex and current) so I know what to expect and look out for.

Auto is a bit of a leap for me as manuals are more reliable and funner, but willing to try it. I quite like the idea of being able to relax more when driving, better for traffic etc.

It's in line with wanting something around 150,000km, and being able to sell at just below 200,000km without losing much.

http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...tomatic-low-mileage/1001284043880910001915809

 

[arr0w]

this is a bmw 320 2011 model
There are a few 1.4 polo trendline(not vivo) and a vw jetta aswell

 

[PostmanPot]

this is a bmw 320 2011 model
There are a few 1.4 polo trendline(not vivo) and a vw jetta aswell

Thanks, I just don't see good value in paying such a lot for 'entrier' cars. I don't think one can beat the value (price : performance/luxury) of a second hand German vehicle.

VWs seem to hold value too well. I mean some people are asking R50,000 for Golf 4s with 150,000km. Yet the above Audi is a much better car for the same price...

 

[arr0w]

have a look on carfind.co.za aswell

 

[PostmanPot]

have a look on carfind.co.za aswell

Yip, all very worthy, but the B7 is effectively the B6 facelift, much the same cars. Except a B6 costs about half. B7 will depreciate more, meaning I lose more. B6 has already gone through most of its depreciation, so I lose less and have as quality a ride.

 

[arr0w]

Yip, all very worthy, but the B7 is effectively the B6 facelift, much the same cars. Except a B6 costs about half. B7 will depreciate more, meaning I lose more. B6 has already gone through most of its depreciation, so I lose less and have as quality a ride.

Wow u have done your homework. I would just pick the colour I like

 

[PostmanPot]

Wow u have done your homework. I would just pick the colour I like

Indeed. On my second A4 B7 now so I'm in a good position to know. Fantastic cars.

Would be interested if anyone else can find another German/entry level luxury brand car for around the same price as the A4 B6 I linked above, with similar mileage.

 

[arr0w]

 

[PostmanPot]

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I would be happy with an E46. I'm in Cape Town though, and won't buy from a dealer.

 

[ahoudet]

http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...udi-a6-stationwagon/1001262920350910368665009
http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...excellent-condition/1001269784090910234780909

 

[PostmanPot]

http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...udi-a6-stationwagon/1001262920350910368665009

I did see this one. Pity it's in Worcester, over 100km away from me. Could maybe ask to meet in Paarl. It has been advertised for ±1 month already which makes me a bit wary. Could be due to the distance, and being undesirable...

A4 Avant would be nice, they're quite scarce. Would worry a bit about an A6...

What do you think?

 

[PostmanPot]

https://www.facebook.com/dawie.schloms

 

[ahoudet]

I did see this one. Pity it's in Worcester, over 100km away from me. Could maybe ask to meet in Paarl. It has been advertised for ±1 month already which makes me a bit wary. Could be due to the distance, and being undesirable...

A4 Avant would be nice, they're quite scarce. Would worry a bit about an A6...

What do you think?

Father had a 2.5 TDI. He took it to dealers to do everything at the time so that wasn't the best idea... The C6 was never popular - hence why it's not sold.

It took me 6 months or so to sell his one that was a 2004 with 121000km. Sold it last year for R90k. The car was like new

 

[ahoudet]

https://www.facebook.com/dawie.schloms

Stalker . Says he lives in Dubai :/ but is from the right place...

I'd say check out this and the A4?

The A6 is an extremely smooth ride

 

[Shah33m]

CL7 (2006 to 2008) Honda Accord 2.4L Type S, or CL7 (2006 to 2008) Honda Accord 2.4L Executive manual (the auto is a bit of a dog).

If you're lucky you can pick up a nice example for between R85,000 and R100,000. It has all the bells and whistles (especially the executive with it's sunroof, premium sound etc.) and looks great (especially the Type S). It's comfortable, frugal for it's size and engine (especially for highway cruising) and incredibly safe. It's more than spacious enough for 4 adults + luggage and is the physical manifestation of Honda reliability. It has enough power to be fun and shrug off load with easy (towing is a breeze). It also has a slight air of exclusivity, it's not as common as many other cars on your list.

We've got two in the family, both 2006 models. One has around 120,000kms on the clock, the other 230,000+kms on the clock. Even the high mileage one still feels solid, quiet and comfortable.

Servicing is not particularly expensive even at a dealership, though there are a few great independents that will give exceptional service. Parts can be a bit pricy, but you won't need them often (if at all beyond regular servicing). Spark plugs are the only high expense (around R1,000 for a set of 4 OEM plugs), but they last 120,000kms between changes so it really does balance out. Alternatives are available for a better price.

It's taken most of the depreciation hit already, so another 50,000 to 100,000kms won't take too much off the value. In fact the value between our two accords is probably only around R20,000 despite one having double the mileage of the other. Plus they sell quickly if priced correctly (don't listen to salesmen who try feed you bull**** about how it'll stand around for a while, when I was shopping all of the good ones were sold within a month, it's still the case now).

Feel free to send any other questions this way.

Very good car and am on the lookout for one myself, the type S 2008 model.

Two words. Hyundai Getz.

I currently have one and it is a great car. But boot space will be a problem and the engine is not that powerful. 72 kw if im not mistaken, hence my post above