.ZA domain prices need to increase – ZACR

Well that would depend on how 'eye-bleeding' you wanted to go. Initially, I'd use anycast and locate the DNS endpoints in ZA and abroad at the major global IXP locations. For ZA most likely hosted at a selection of facilities such as INX-ZA/NAPAfrica (JNB/DBN/CTN) locations and internationally, well there are plenty of options but at least 4 other continents (perhaps South America,North America/Europe/Asia for distribution) So that's minimum 6 endpoints in ZA and perhaps matching number of offshore (additional east/west for larger markets if necessary). Each endpoint's configuration would vary but preferably HA with expansion options. That would be my garage registry 1.0 starting point.

Just to add: That's if I had to do it myself and not utilise PCH or some other service for secondaries etc.

Bit more than a garage all of a sudden.
 
Yeah... no.

Just remember that the day this goes down the internet for most of South Africa will suddenly break. At that point every one will be screaming at you on MyBB for being so cheap.

Or rather they wont because MyBB will be down too.

Agh shame. Must have big building, big budget, big pricing, big increases or else it will suddenly break and destroooooy the internet. Let's not be disingenuous with what .ZA has been running on for most of its history just fine.
 
This is actually an interesting question in terms of the proposed price increase... What sort of hardware and redundancy is .ZA currently operating on?
 
Agh shame. Must have big building, big budget, big pricing, big increases or else it will suddenly break and destroooooy the internet. Let's not be disingenuous with what .ZA has been running on for most of its history just fine.

It seems you're conflating .za (19 zones) with the subdomains (1.2+ million zones).
 
Yeah... no.

Just remember that the day this goes down the internet for most of South Africa will suddenly break. At that point every one will be screaming at you on MyBB for being so cheap.

Or rather they wont because MyBB will be down too.
This has gone way above some people's heads so I'll say it again. This can be run from a garage. Everything else is extra quality. So we have to gauge whether ZACR offers that quality to justify the increase and reach a compromise between quality and affordability. And while we are on the subject if ZACR goes down most domains will still function for hours to days in regions where they are accessed due to caching. It won't be a sudden train smash.
 
This has gone way above some people's heads so I'll say it again. This can be run from a garage. Everything else is extra quality. So we have to gauge whether ZACR offers that quality to justify the increase and reach a compromise between quality and affordability. And while we are on the subject if ZACR goes down most domains will still function for hours to days in regions where they are accessed due to caching. It won't be a sudden train smash.

Actually no, this can't be run from a garage, everything else is entirely necessary for its operation and is not "extra quality" as you put it.

Yes some domains will run for hours, or maybe days if ZACR goes down.. many won't depending on what they've set their authorative TTLs as.. many guys set them very very low so changes to the DNS propagate out very quickly.
 
<SNIP> Let's not be disingenuous with what .ZA has been running on for most of its history just fine.

I think you're nitpicking. Substitute CO.ZA for .ZA if you like, my point still stands.

Ok - so what has ZA (and the stuff under it) been running just fine on, for most of it's history?

And honestly, I don't think that making a distinction between a registry of 19 mostly static zones vs one with 1.2 million zones plus hundreds of changes per day is nitpicking - there we'll disagree - ok?
 
Ok - so what has ZA (and the stuff under it) been running just fine on, for most of it's history?

And honestly, I don't think that making a distinction between a registry of 19 mostly static zones vs one with 1.2 million zones plus hundreds of changes per day is nitpicking - there we'll disagree - ok?

I was making the point that the infrastructure in place is not nearly as "eye bleeding" as you would think. I stated .za referring to the context of .za including the sub-domains but primarily in context of THIS thread. You're welcome to ask the gentleman above to elaborate on the eye-bleeding infrastructure and who owns what, where and how it's outsourced etc.

The garage analogy is more figurative but it doesn't take much to host and serve a million zones or a million delegations at 500,000 queries per second.

Edit: Nor to service an EPP service for that matter.
 
I was making the point that the infrastructure in place is not nearly as "eye bleeding" as you would think. I stated .za referring to the context of .za including the sub-domains but primarily in context of THIS thread. You're welcome to ask the gentleman above to elaborate on the eye-bleeding infrastructure and who owns what, where and how it's outsourced etc.

quovadis said:
Let's not be disingenuous with what .ZA has been running on for most of its history just fine.

Ok - so you have no idea of the ZA infrastructure history, and that was just a throw away comment - I'll move on.


The garage analogy is more figurative but it doesn't take much to host and serve a million zones or a million delegations at 500,000 queries per second.

Edit: Nor to service an EPP service for that matter.

You've done either? Details?
 
Ok - so you have no idea of the ZA infrastructure history, and that was just a throw away comment - I'll move on.

You've done either? Details?

Are you one of these receipts people that love to mull around MyBB? I'm asking you to refer back to the rep who would be in a better place to substantiate his own statements.

And yes, I speak from experience - I worked for a nasdaq listed internet provider in the late 90s/early 00s that provided, amongst other things, bind infrastructure on the US east coast for a rather large domain registrar and reseller marketplace at the time. That was back when co.za was with Posix and NICserv was a thing. But even despite that, dns isn't exactly resource intensive - anyone with experience will tell you that.
 
Love how SA is always so out of touch to call ordinary tech "eye bleeding", "bleeding edge", "cutting edge" etc. Apart from being localised and replicated in a number of places it's probably just some standard servers. DNS hasn't changed much over the years and is still basic tech. A business model which continues to increase prices as the number of customers increase doesn't sound like a sustainable one to me. Have to wonder how they managed to survive when it was just a 10th or a 100th of the current size and what changed over the years to justify this.
 
Have to wonder how they managed to survive when it was just a 10th or a 100th of the current size and what changed over the years to justify this.
In a word... "Risk"
 
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