ZADNA announces price hikes for .za domains

bradleyk said:
BTW

You're being sold vaporware if you are being sold privacy, your WHOIS information should be protected/redacted by GDPR/POPI
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Not applicable to all countries, only to your jurisdiction.

Also, ICANN is working on a way around GDPR, because it is in effect empowering child abuse/porn, illicit site, terrorism,criminal/phishing etc owners by allowing the registrars not to even capture personal details in the name of GDPR. This takes away the responsibility one has when owning and operating a domain name on the Internet to comply with ICANN's rules, and rules in most countries (literally almost 99% of the world does not allow child abuse/slavery/porn sites etc, many don't allow criminal activities etc) - require the ability to identify an actual entity from a domain - be it a Proxy that can be queried or summonsed, an individual or a company contact.

The most likely way forward is going to be how Privacy companies manage your WHOIS data now. It will be redacted by default to eveyone, but on presentation of a valid court order/summons/etc the data must be released. This can be driven to bypass intra-country boundaries by amending ICANN rules for the specific reason of domain names.
 
neoprema said:
The most likely way forward is going to be how Privacy companies manage your WHOIS data now. It will be redacted by default to eveyone, but on presentation of a valid court order/summons/etc the data must be released. This can be driven to bypass intra-country boundaries by amending ICANN rules for the specific reason of domain names.
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At present in the context of ZARC and all cctld's that they manage, all WHOIS information is redacted by default to everyone as per the example below

Code: 
---Domain Name: absolutevps.co.za
Registry Domain ID: dom_3K1OH--1
Registrar WHOIS Server: https://zawhois.co.za/
Registrar URL: https://absolutehosting.co.za/
Updated Date: 2024-05-09T08:10:38Z
Creation Date: 2020-05-26T09:29:10Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2025-05-26T09:29:10Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-05-26T09:29:10Z
Registrar: Absolute Hosting
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +27.120040112
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok https://icann.org/epp#ok
Registrant Organization: None
Registrant Country: ZA
Registrant Email: Please query the RDDS service of the Registrar of Record identified in this output for information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin or Tech contacts of the domain name.
Admin Email: Please query the RDDS service of the Registrar of Record identified in this output for information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin or Tech contacts of the domain name.
Tech Email: Please query the RDDS service of the Registrar of Record identified in this output for information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin or Tech contacts of the domain name.
Billing Email: Please query the RDDS service of the Registrar of Record identified in this output for information on how to contact the Registrant, Admin or Tech contacts of the domain name.
Name Server: dara.ns.cloudflare.com
Name Server: noel.ns.cloudflare.com
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2024-06-23T11:33:19Z <<<
 
neoprema said:
Not applicable to all countries, only to your jurisdiction.

Also, ICANN is working on a way around GDPR, because it is in effect empowering child abuse/porn, illicit site, terrorism,criminal/phishing etc owners by allowing the registrars not to even capture personal details in the name of GDPR. This takes away the responsibility one has when owning and operating a domain name on the Internet to comply with ICANN's rules, and rules in most countries (literally almost 99% of the world does not allow child abuse/slavery/porn sites etc, many don't allow criminal activities etc) - require the ability to identify an actual entity from a domain - be it a Proxy that can be queried or summonsed, an individual or a company contact.

The most likely way forward is going to be how Privacy companies manage your WHOIS data now. It will be redacted by default to eveyone, but on presentation of a valid court order/summons/etc the data must be released. This can be driven to bypass intra-country boundaries by amending ICANN rules for the specific reason of domain names.
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So in essence, you're basically saying that what I said - that right now your WHOIS data in South Africa is redacted and protected. Without needing to pay anything extra for it ?
 
Danie_V said:
It's not really "advertising" as they just list on their website. Everyone's website does normally site their pro's (not con's) and price is probably their biggest pro (turns out it actually includes the WhoIsPrivacy). But I'd like to see the actual prohibition on comparative advertising first, to judge the full context of it (I've actually not read it)?
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According to the Law Journal of SA, comparative advertising may be unlawful on two grounds, namely the common law relating to unlawful competition, and infringement of a registered trademark.

The moment you list your competitor's registered brand name, slogan or logo on your own page you are looking at trade mark infringement.
 
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bradleyk said:
According to the Law Journal of SA, comparative advertising may be unlawful on two grounds, namely the common law relating to unlawful competition, and infringement of a registered trademark.

The moment you list your competitor's registered brand name, slogan or logo on your own page you are looking at trade mark infringement.
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Again I would prefer to see the whole context, and was looking for more something like this:

The Law Journal of South Africa doesn't have a single definitive article on comparative advertising, but there have been discussions about its legality based on two main points:

  • Common Law and Unlawful Competition: Here, comparative advertising is generally permitted unless it contains untrue disparaging allegations. This means negative statements about a competitor's product or service must be factually accurate and not misleading. Some legal scholars argue that even true disparaging remarks might infringe on a competitor's right to goodwill.
  • Trade Mark Legislation and Infringement: In the past, there was some debate about whether comparative advertising could infringe on a registered trademark. However, recent court decisions have introduced limitations on the trademark owner's rights, allowing for comparative advertising as long as it adheres to certain principles:
    • The comparison is fair and honest.
    • It doesn't create confusion in the marketplace regarding the origin of the products.
    • It identifies the competitor or their product clearly.
 
Cronies are hungry and that fat tummies indicative of famine. Raise those domain prices. R10 is crazy. There are domain resellers sitting with millions of these domains. Raise co.za domains to R400 a year instead.,
 
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