ZADNA release draft Registry and Registrar regulations - public comments open

Jan

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Proposed new rules for South Africa's Internet domains

The .ZA Domain Name Authority (Zadna) has published draft regulations for South Africa’s registry operators and registrars that offer .ZA domains.

Registry operators manage domain name registrations and provide services needed for those domains to work.
 

Jan

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TLDR? What does this mean for the .za.net and .za.org domains.
Unsure. I'm waiting for them to work through it and formulate opinions.

I expect there will be a lot of questions that people want to raise at that "members' engagement session".

What grates me is the steady erosion of the values I've always associated with the Internet.


Code:
        This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the
beauty of the baud.  We make use of a service already existing without paying
for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and
you call us criminals.  We explore... and you call us criminals.  We seek
after knowledge... and you call us criminals.  We exist without skin color,
without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us
and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
 

charlieharper

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On the other hand, most new startups don't even use regional domains.... it's all .com / .co / .io

And the web3 space use the weirder ones like .space .career .finance .xyz etc etc .

I'm very much a domain hoarder, but I haven't bought a .co.za in many years.
 
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Jan

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On the other hand, most new startups don't even use regional domains.... it's all .com / .co / .io

And the web3 space use the weirder ones like .space .career .finance .xyz etc etc .

I'm very much a domain hoarder, but I haven't bought a .co.za in many years.
This is something ZADNA doesn't seem to understand.

If it wants .za to remain relevant, they are doing the opposite of what needs to be done.
 

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Unsure. I'm waiting for them to work through it and formulate opinions.

I expect there will be a lot of questions that people want to raise at that "members' engagement session".

What grates me is the steady erosion of the values I've always associated with the Internet.


Code:
        This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the
beauty of the baud.  We make use of a service already existing without paying
for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and
you call us criminals.  We explore... and you call us criminals.  We seek
after knowledge... and you call us criminals.  We exist without skin color,
without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us
and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
Prepare for the frog-boilling heat to turn up as well:

Registrars must provide broad-based black economic empowerment (BBBEE) information with their licence application — specifically details of BEE ownership.
 

quovadis

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So now you have to be black to register a domain… Well hopefully the ANCs blatant racism is clear to the world now
More like have BBBEE credentials if you want to be a registry not register a domain.

If it wants .za to remain relevant, they are doing the opposite of what needs to be done.
This. The requirement for verification of registrants of domains will be an onerous one which will add additional costs. I don't think any registrar or TLD requires this other than a declaration which can be challenged if necessary.
 

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"Registrar fees" means the per-domain fees collected by Registrars from Registrants, and payable to Registries in accordance with Domain Name price determinations of the Authority."

Does this mean that the Authority is going to levy a new "fee" to the registrant as the domain cost pricing is automatically taken by the Registry at the time of registration or renewal. (Systems are automated.)
 
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rvZA

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.com, .net, .org that is the future of the Internet in South Africa - registered with companies abroad like Namecheap.com. To hell with co.za domains. Way too much risk.
 

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This is complete and utter crap! I'm a one-man show that's developed my own EPP software and registered as a registrar about +10 years ago. I've been hosting domains for the last 20 years. These new "rules" will put me out of business! Government is supposed to help the small business, not close us down! FFS!
 

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Time for tld’s and gtld’s to replace your .za domains

As registrars we’ll push back on the proposed draft how ever as we all know, the comments are merely procedural and nothing that we say or contribute will be considered.
 

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Registrars must collect and store identity documents, physical addresses, and contact information of people wishing to register .ZA domains
RICA for Domains - really.

In case you forgot:
RICA = Regulation of Interception of Communications and Provision of Communication- Related Information Act

What about our right to privacy?
Why is government so interested in spying on citizens?

Other countries don't require this so don't use the excuses "think of the children" or "War against Terror" as that is not logical - (seems child issues/terror only a problem in za domains)
 
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