Zimbabweans found guilty of watching Arab Spring videos

LazyLion

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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/19/world/africa/zimbabwe-video-arrests/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

(CNN) -- Six Zimbabweans arrested last year for watching footage of the Arab Spring protests were found guilty of conspiracy to commit public violence Monday, according to the wife of one of the men.
The men face six to 10 years in prison or a $2,000 fine when they are sentenced in a Harare court Tuesday, Shantha Bloemen said.
The six were among 46 people arrested on February 19, 2011, during an academic meeting where a video on the events in Tunisia and Egypt were shown.
"I am very disappointed that they were found guilty," defense lawyer Alec Muchadehama said after hearing the verdict.
Rights activist Munyaradzi Gwisai said the verdict was "not surprising."
"We are not deterred," Gwisai said. "We are not intimidated."
Police eventually released 40 of the attendees, but charged the rest with treason or attempt to overthrow the government by unconstitutional means. Those charges were later altered to conspiracy to commit public violence.
The government has said the six were plotting an Egyptian-style uprising in the southern African country. Critics have called the charges politically motivated.
The defendants were allegedly watching video footage of protests that led to the ouster of presidents Zine El Abidine Ben Ali of Tunisia and Hosni Mubarak of Egypt.
Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, 87, is not unlike the toppled leaders.
He has ruled Zimbabwe since independence in 1980 and has been accused of rigging elections and instituting repressive laws to tighten his grip on power.
The arrests may be an indication authorities are worried the winds of change sweeping across north Africa may inspire Zimbabweans to rise up.
The opposition Movement for Democratic Change, MDC, which is in a troubled unity government with Mugabe's ZANU-PF, has called the arrests "an abuse of state machinery by ZANU-PF to suppress the people's views."
Mugabe has called for new elections but his political rival and leader of the MDC, Morgan Tsvangirai, has threatened to boycott the poll if a referendum on a new constitution is not held.

Video at the link.
 

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Yea well welcome to planet earth gary, where people like mugabe get to roam free and live amazing lives. Stay in line you stay in power.
 

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Yea well welcome to planet earth gary, where people like mugabe get to roam free and live amazing lives. Stay in line you stay in power.

... and where people like you applaud the activities of the dictators.
 

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... and where people like you applaud the activities of the dictators.

Naaa i just figure if the powers that be are ok with dictators they cannot be that bad hey. When the likes of mugabe and the bahrain governments are still in power there really is no hope for our species. I only mention those two but there are many many more that stay in power and will always be there as long as they keep in line. Step out of line and you will get taken down.

Seriously they are so concerned about libya and syria while mugabe has been going strong for 12 years, it has been longer but 2000 was the time it fell apart yet libya and syria get attention while zimbabweans have watched their country wrecked while nato twiddle their thumbs trying to nail anti west countries. Sadly nobody cares about zimbabwe and the numerous other countries in need of help gary.

Even our government does not care nor the leaders in africa, the only time countries world wide care is when it threatens or benefits them to do something.
 
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No oil, no worries...

What do you mean ? As far as I know all of the big oil contracts were awarded to the Chinese or Russians.

Russian oil giant Lukoil was a big winner from the 2nd round of Iraq oil license auctions concluded Saturday.
The privately owned company, in partnership with Norway's state-owned Statoil, won the contract to develop the West Qurna Phase Two oil field in southern Iraq, one of the world's largest untapped 'supergiant' fields. The pair beat out a consortium led by BP, France's Total and Malaysia's state-oil company Petronas.

Other 2nd-round license winners included Royal Dutch Shell, which won the contract for the the 12.6 billion barrel supergiant Majnoon field in partnership with Petronas, Gazprom, which led a group that will develop toe Badrah field[.]

None of the U.S.oil majors, such as Exxon Mobil or Chevron submitted bids, leaving only Occidental among U.S. companies to make one failed offer on the auction's first day.

The Russians :confused:

and...

The Chinese:

China Opens Oil Field in Iraq

From among the most outspoken of critics of the 2003 U.S.-led invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, China has emerged as one of the biggest economic beneficiaries of the war, snagging five lucrative deals. While Western firms were largely subdued in their interest in Iraq's recent oil auctions, China snapped up three contracts, shrugging off the security risks and the country's political instability for the promise of oil.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3757765...t/china-reaps-benefits-iraq-war/#.T2eXMBHro-A

So, the big bad US is not even the main benefactor, but the Chinese and Russians are :wtf:
 

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The iraq war was not about oil extraction, it was about the currency. The very first thing the US did in iraq when they took it was return oil to the dollar. Iraq was one of the biggest producers of oil selling it in euro's. Think about why it took them so long to get rid of saddam. He moved away from the dollar and it was over for him. When he was trading in dollars he could massacre the kurds and do what he liked, once he moved away from the dollar those things became the reason he was attacked.

That is the reason they went in.
 
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The iraq war was not about oil extraction, it was about the currency. The very first thing the US did in iraq when they took it was return oil to the dollar. Iraq was one of the biggest producers of oil selling it in euro's. Think about why it took them so long to get rid of saddam. He moved away from the dollar and it was over for him. When he was trading in dollars he could massacre the kurds and do what he liked, once he moved away from the dollar those things became the reason he was attacked.



That is the reason they went in.

erm why would other NATO countries support the war in Iraq then if they would benefit from the oil being tied to the Euro?
 

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erm why would other NATO countries support the war in Iraq then if they would benefit from the oil being tied to the Euro?

Quit confusing Killa with facts. You'll spoil his little fantasy world that he lives in! :p
 

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The iraq war was not about oil extraction, it was about the currency. The very first thing the US did in iraq when they took it was return oil to the dollar. Iraq was one of the biggest producers of oil selling it in euro's. Think about why it took them so long to get rid of saddam. He moved away from the dollar and it was over for him. When he was trading in dollars he could massacre the kurds and do what he liked, once he moved away from the dollar those things became the reason he was attacked.

That is the reason they went in.

Now its because of currency ? You guys always said it was about the oil. IIRC killa, there is even a post by you on this thread that 9/11 was an inside job by the USA to get public support. And now all of a sudden its not about the oil anymore since China and Russia are getting the big oil contracts.

I think at your next anti-West/Israel/USA meeting you need to decide why the US attacked Iraq. Some of you guys are still stuck on the whole oil thing. just look at Aqua's post above.
 

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Now its because of currency ? You guys always said it was about the oil. IIRC killa, there is even a post by you on this thread that 9/11 was an inside job by the USA to get public support. And now all of a sudden its not about the oil anymore since China and Russia are getting the big oil contracts.

I think at your next anti-West/Israel/USA meeting you need to decide why the US attacked Iraq. Some of you guys are still stuck on the whole oil thing. just look at Aqua's post above.

The "why" doesn't matter, in fact it doesn't even have to exist for misguided conspiracy theorists like killadoob. In their disturbed little minds, they are convinced the USA is out to get us all; no amount of evidence (or lack thereof) will convince them otherwise. The only recourse is to ensure they don't breed.
 

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The "why" doesn't matter, in fact it doesn't even have to exist for misguided conspiracy theorists like killadoob. In their disturbed little minds, they are convinced the USA is out to get us all; no amount of evidence (or lack thereof) will convince them otherwise. The only recourse is to ensure they don't breed.

I second that!
 
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