Zindzi Mandela racist tweet

terencej

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Nah, I don't think it's that bad between black and white people. Average Joe doesn't care. I look around me and it's business as usual.

It's politicians, media and people with vested interest in chaos that are blowing things out of proportion
Its the media. Racists in SA is given a voice by the media.
 

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If Zindi is such "damaged goods" as Duarte makes out, how does that then justify her being an ambassador?
Precisely. And, as per Jesse Duarte's and the ANC written admission and their hatred towards white people, why did they post her to Europe? Why not Zimbabwe? She surely must pose some security risk to white people abroad? Who knows what the South African government is planning or who they are assisting in their embassies abroad.
 

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Here lies the issue :

"There has been an expectation since 1994 that, as the generations of adults and children who lived through the awful years of apartheid, we would simply forget it all…" wrote Duarte.

So This Duarte cretin is actually making a statement that the entire rainbow nation 1994 Mandela promise of rebuild and move on into a nation of forgiveness had no meaning and should not apply to the actual direct family of Nelson Mandela.

So it was after all just a big ol farce with no substance ?

Its funny how they like to hang onto the Apartheid era even more than Jews hanging onto the holocaust period. This is by design because if you consider moving on and heal then you are no longer a victim and the ANC get all their power from playing the victim game even after 25 years you would swear only yesterday they were released from a slave trading ship the way they are going on about this.

Jessie perhaps we should use the same logic you applied here to rapist and serial killers and just let them continue doing it because they were perhaps also raped sometime in their past or saw a lot of killing around them as they grew up.

Thanks for clearing that up Jessie.
Another point someone alluded to recently (was it Fulcrum?) is that we're expected to give certain people a free pass because of their past experiences with the white race - yes, the entire race apparently. Yet a white racist has no excuse, as though no black person has ever committed a crime against or wronged a white person in any way. The free pass gang's logic is faulty and nothing more than an excuse to cover for their own.

Duarte, you're lower than shark ****. To you and your free pass brigade - GFY.
 

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Bias & double standards, which you deny exists, will prevent that from happening.
The SAHRC on Zindzi Mandela,

2019-06-16

https://city-press.news24.com/News/...zindzi-mandela-lashes-out-on-twitter-20190616

Advocate André Gaum, a commissioner at the SA Human Rights Commission, said that if a complaint was received by the commission, it would investigated.
2019-06-20

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...social-media-posts-sets-sa-back-warn-experts/

While her tweets are gaining support, the SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) has confirmed it has received a complaint.
2019-07-08

https://www.jacarandafm.com/news/news/sahrc-will-consider-probe-zindzi-mandela-tweets/

The commission’s deputy chair Priscilla Jana confirmed that it will look into the matter as soon as a formal complaint has been laid.

"We should have particular respect and understanding of the political situation, but one has also got to look at the context of Zinzi's history. There is a lot of mitigating factors, she's a diplomat representing South Africa, she should be careful of what she says but one cannot totally ignore her own personal victory and her subjective views.”
The SAHRC on Adam Catzavelos,

2019-07-10

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/adam-catzavelos-k-word-case-postponed-again-20190710

The SAHRC further indicated that it was not concerned with the issue of jurisdiction due to the fact that the crime was committed outside South Africa’s borders.

"We are permitted to initiate matters of our own accord, we do not have to wait for a member of the public to lay a complaint.

"Jurisdiction is not an issue because social media transcends borders," the SAHRC's Gauteng head Buang Jones explained.

In the SAHRC matter, Catzavelos's answering affidavit allegedly indicates that he hopes to settle the matter outside of court.

The chances of a settlement are slim, as both parties failed to reach consensus on the amount of damages which should be paid.

"They submit that Catzavelos is willing to undergo sensitivity training and community service for his conduct.

"Given the seriousness of this matter, we are not considering this. We want the court to rule on the matter as we cannot agree on damages, which we believe should be R200 000," Jones said.
Yes, bias and double standards are entrenched in our society come to our Constitutional (and Human) Rights.

EDIT: Updated links
 
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Fulcrum29

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Municipality fired these cops
https://www.iol.co.za/sunday-tribun...es-three-metro-police-officers-fired-17194381

I doubt anything would have happened had they been active members or office bearers of political parties (mainly the governing party)
https://www.dailysun.co.za/News/National/cops-back-at-work-but-not-off-hook-20180930

Yes, it is the Daily Sun, but they reported on it,

COPS BACK AT WORK BUT NOT OFF HOOK

THE three Metro cops who were fired by the eThekwini Municipality for allegedly referring to a senior cop as a mlungu are back at work.

The cops won their appeal on Friday and immediately returned to work.

Constables Siyabonga Mzobe, Siphamandla Madida and Mthembeni Mtshali were fired two weeks ago. The municipality’s hearing found that the use of the word was derogatory and the three cops were dismissed.

On Saturday, an excited Mzobe told Daily Sun the appeal panel sat on Friday and found there were loopholes with the hearing process and that it was not fair.


He said the panel recommended that if the municipality still wanted to pursue the case, the process had to start afresh.

Mzobe said the panel found that the witnesses who testified against them were dishonest.

They had apparently made statements saying they had heard the white senior cop call the three cops the “k” word but later changed their statements.

“We are excited by the outcome of the appeal hearing.

“We always knew we were being victimised because we laid charges against the same officer for calling us by the ‘k’ word, but instead of dealing with him we were charged.

“We are happy we are back at work,” said Mzobe.

Metro Police spokesman Superintendent Parboo Sewpersad confirmed the three cops were reinstated on Friday but said they were not off the hook yet.

He said there were processes that would take place which might find them guilty.
 

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The SAHRC on Zindzi Mandela,

2019-06-16

https://city-press.news24.com/News/...zindzi-mandela-lashes-out-on-twitter-20190616



2019-06-20

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/so...social-media-posts-sets-sa-back-warn-experts/



2019-07-08



The SAHRC on Adam Catzavelos,

2019-07-10



Yes, bias and double standards are entrenched in our society come to our Constitutional (and Human) Rights.
I really wish I had to money to make billboards of these and advertise this all over SA! This sums up exactly what, I believe, majority of people have with the SAHRC - hypocrisy of racial proportions!
 

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I see. But there was no party influence on their case. They appealed and won.

The cops won their appeal on Friday and immediately returned to work.
On Saturday, an excited Mzobe told Daily Sun the appeal panel sat on Friday and found there were loopholes with the hearing process and that it was not fair.

He said the panel recommended that if the municipality still wanted to pursue the case, the process had to start afresh.

Mzobe said the panel found that the witnesses who testified against them were dishonest.

They had apparently made statements saying they had heard the white senior cop call the three cops the “k” word but later changed their statements.
 

Fulcrum29

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Yes, I know, the reason why I posted that article in its entirety without being nitpicky at to what would suit certain peoples narratives. I doubt that there were any more processes, and the news didn’t elaborate on the loopholes. Loopholes are shortcuts within the processes, clearly, the initial process wasn't followed correctly.
 

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Fulcrum29

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Another piece of gold.... the reason why reconciliation between black and white has sailed. Also indicative of black hatred towards white people.

'Let Zindzi Mandela be,' pleads Duarte in personal note



https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...la-be-pleads-duarte-in-personal-note-20190711
I see AF is now the threat,

'Zindzi Mandela is not the problem'

She felt that although Mandela was "rebuked" by International Relations and Cooperation Minister Naledi Pandor, she should not be expected to "join the chorus of neo-liberals who simply want us to forget what has shaped the narrative for transformation in our country".

"We can only achieve non-racialism when we let go of the pretences and speak plainly about what must change. Our voices may speak out in anger, but we cannot pretend that all is well now."

In Duarte's opinion, AfriForum was "actively pursuing a racist agenda".

"We suffer economically because a progressive narrative that talks to radically transforming our economy on the basis of a structural imbalance that is designed to exclude black people in general but specifically African people and black women, opens the real issue of what apartheid was: a system of capitalism deeply inspired by slavery, control of a cheap labour force and ownership of everything of true value by a minority.

"The expectation is that we allow this system to continue unhindered, because it is said disturbing ownership of the minority will kill our already limping economy. But inclusion and creativity will spread the growth we need. More people who become employers will create more jobs.

"It is time to allow facts to define our growth narrative, not shallow truths. We need more farmers and farmers need land.

"So let Zindzi Mandela be. She is not the enemy of our country nor the architect of land dispossession, nor is she holding back the growth of our economy," said Duarte.

"Before the haters say this, allow me: Corruption is negative, it is inspired by greed, but tainting everyone as corrupt through the joining of dots does not make people corrupt. We need courage now to stomp out the corrupt practices in the tender processes, and in the price-fixing processes. We need to stomp out the networks that are indeed pervasive.

"Zindzi Mandela is not the problem. AfriForum is a threat to any hope we have for truly forming a non-racial, non-sexist, united and democratic South Africa.

"Too many of us are silenced because of the labels we are given. Labels that are convenient to silence facts. Dots are not truths."
Duarte, surely knows that when the dots are connected that it is a trial, to arrive at conclusions which will tell the truths? Joining the dots, how about investigating the smudge?

Good at stating that minority rights groups are a threat to unity. Now at least I know that she acknowledged that minority groups have less protection in her view. Still blaming the imbalances since the Union was established.

I hope she knows that the corrupt are riding the poor into an economic crisis.

Isn't Duarte also a dot?
 

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Black, sahrc waits for formal complaint before investigation.
White, sahrc intiates its own investigation without any complaint.
FTFY, and only then will they consider looking into the complaint.
 

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Black, sahrc waits for complaint before investigation.
White, sahrc intiates its own investigation without any complaint.
And the outcome of the investigation into a black persons racism is a forgone conclusion.SA HRC.JPG
 

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Waiting for the first white name caller to use the Duarte defense.

"I cannot be vilified for speaking my mind after what I and my family experienced at the hands of black people "
 
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