Zulu wristband spat 'racist'

[Moederloos]

PS. I still maintain that showing irreverance to a sacred object ( not only your sacred objects ) is blasphemous

Who showed "irreverence"?
That is way too big a word. Did he spit on it? Trod it underheel?
No - he told her to take it off. That is not irreverence.

Christians do not wear headgear in a house of god - male Jewish men must. Those two are opposites, so for either to go into their house of worship "properly clothed" then, by definition, must be blasphemous to the other?

 

[coolio24]

Who showed "irreverence"?
That is way too big a word. Did he spit on it? Trod it underheel?
No - he told her to take it off. That is not irreverence.

Christians do not wear headgear in a house of god - male Jewish men must. Those two are opposites, so for either to go into their house of worship "properly clothed" then, by definition, must be blasphemous to the other?

You seem to have missed the first part of my post, since he only asked her to remove it and nothing else, he was not blasphemous, had he cut it off, ripped it off or whatever, he would have been committing blasphemy, as he would have known that the object was sacred to her - this is just based on the strict definition of the word

I personally do not believe that that action would have been blasphemous in God's eyes - or else Moses would have committed blasphemy when he destroyed the idol after receiving the commandments

 

[BCO]

My R0.2:

a) I think that people clinging to primitive cultural hangovers from a time long past is pathetic (that includes all you westerners with primitive religious beliefs too, before anyone goes and calls me a racist).

b) A lot of you people are really overplaying the hygiene issue here. I honestly don't think anyone would die as a result of this woman's wearing the wrist band, much less get sick. Believe it or not, but the average person is a fairly hardy creature and can ingest a lot of dodgy stuff, believe me - some the things I've eaten and drank in the line of work have been damn dodgy (by first world standards, at any rate) and nothing's happened to me so far.

Now that I've offended basically everyone in this thread, please continue

 

[semiautomatix]

Who showed "irreverence"?
That is way too big a word. Did he spit on it? Trod it underheel?
No - he told her to take it off. That is not irreverence.

Christians do not wear headgear in a house of god - male Jewish men must. Those two are opposites, so for either to go into their house of worship "properly clothed" then, by definition, must be blasphemous to the other?

If of course you believe it to be a sacred Jewish tradition, then yes.

 

[semiautomatix]

My R0.2:

a) I think that people clinging to primitive cultural hangovers from a time long past is pathetic (that includes all you westerners with primitive religious beliefs too, before anyone goes and calls me a racist).

b) A lot of you people are really overplaying the hygiene issue here. I honestly don't think anyone would die as a result of this woman's wearing the wrist band, much less get sick. Believe it or not, but the average person is a fairly hardy creature and can ingest a lot of dodgy stuff, believe me - some the things I've eaten and drank in the line of work have been damn dodgy (by first world standards, at any rate) and nothing's happened to me so far.

Now that I've offended basically everyone in this thread, please continue

Its still disgusting and enough to put me off my food :/

 

[BCO]

Its still disgusting and enough to put me off my food :/

Wussy.

Jeez we got a bunch of softies on this forum. There's people too scared to drink tap water, people crying coz somebody slept in their bed or pissed in their toilet. Over pampered methinks.

 

[semiautomatix]

Wussy.

Jeez we got a bunch of softies on this forum. There's people too scared to drink tap water, people crying coz somebody slept in their bed or pissed in their toilet. Over pampered methinks.

Its all fun and games till you get cholera!

 

[Slaine73]

Wussy.

Jeez we got a bunch of softies on this forum. There's people too scared to drink tap water, people crying coz somebody slept in their bed or pissed in their toilet. Over pampered methinks.

You let other people piss in your toilet!!! No disgusting man!! I don't want any foreign thing in my food that I did not put there myself

 

[Moederloos]

If of course you believe it to be a sacred Jewish tradition, then yes.

The point is, that every time you do ANYTHING, it is against someone else's beliefs. It is ludicrous to call it blasphemy - as you said (it was you? ) - you can only blasphemy your own beliefs, not someone elses.

 

[Slaine73]

If I am a Christian and I curse God, then it is blasphemy and heresy. If I as Christian curse Allah then it is not blasphemy or heresy, then it is maybe intollerance to other religions and so on.

 

[Moederloos]

If I am a Christian and I curse God, then it is blasphemy and heresy. If I as Christian curse Allah then it is not blasphemy or heresy, then it is maybe intollerance to other religions and so on.

It's the same God, just for the record.

 

[semiautomatix]

If I am a Christian and I curse God, then it is blasphemy and heresy. If I as Christian curse Allah then it is not blasphemy or heresy, then it is maybe intollerance to other religions and so on.

Yeah, something like that.

 

[semiautomatix]

The point is, that every time you do ANYTHING, it is against someone else's beliefs. It is ludicrous to call it blasphemy - as you said (it was you? ) - you can only blasphemy your own beliefs, not someone elses.

Yup, exactly. So religious intolerance is correct, blasphemy is not.

I mean, if that were the definition then by merely believing in another god than mine is blasphemy. Which it is not.

 

[semiautomatix]

It's the same God, just for the record.

Don't even start going down that road.

 

[Slaine73]

It's the same God, just for the record.

Ooops ja. Sorry were trying to make a point

 

[Balstrome]

Another question, if you dont believe in God, how can you be intolerant or blasphemous. Religions are given way to much respect I think.

 

[Moederloos]

Another question, if you dont believe in God, how can you be intolerant or blasphemous. Religions are given way to much respect I think.

Well, if I "discriminate" against you at work, because you believe 50c is a great artist, I am still being intolerant. Regardless of your total failing as a person.

And, as we said, you cannot blaspheme someone else's beliefs, only your own.

 

[2CentsWorth]

Now I know what that dead animal smell was in the elevator earlier this week.

Which leads me to this: why must I tolerate cultural actions when such actions may be harmful to my health? Cultures evolve. Even the mighty Zulus have evolved (to a degree)

 

[2CentsWorth]

Another question, if you dont believe in God, how can you be intolerant or blasphemous. Religions are given way to much respect I think.

But religion is incorrectly used to begin with. Zulu is not a religion. It's also technically not a culture. It's is a tribal define (in some parts of the world, that is a definition of a race).

 

[JungleBoy]

Well, if I "discriminate" against you at work, because you believe 50c is a great artist, I am still being intolerant. Regardless of your total failing as a person.

And, as we said, you cannot blaspheme someone else's beliefs, only your own.

Actually you can. The thing is you'll not consider it blasphemy but the believer will certainly do.