Zuma: I'll be like Mandela

Gunny

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Just because you say so? that case was thrown out.

A judge ruled that he and Mr Shaik had a generally corrupt relationship. Maybe its guilt by association but he didnt distance himself.
 

Freshy-ZN

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Just because something doesnt make it to court doesnt mean there is no guilt. A criminal case is very hard to prove and prosecutors will only really take them on if there is a reasonable chance.

My gripe with Zuma actually has nothing to do with any of the corruption scandal (excepting that he was ruled by default to be party to a generally corrupt relationship with Shaik), nor does it have anything to do with conspiracy theories re the Xhosa vs Zulu thing.

My gripe has to do with what he himself has admitted to and said. Prime example being the shower scene. This man is not fit to run a country. He has no right trying to follow in the legendry footsteps of Mandela. He has no right to try pretend to be interested in fighting corruption. He is nothing more than a celebrity bad-boy, a Zulu Robbie Williams but with even less tact.
 

HosstheBoss

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Condemning him because he intends fighting corruption? Wow!

Condemning: (v.) the act of putting on a condom

your right Angelo, we apologise, we would never expect his almighty Zuma to wear a condom! :rolleyes:
 
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HosstheBoss

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A person with loose morals perhaps in Western Eyes. Rape Case in point.

Yup, knowingly slept with a HIV positive woman, 30 years his junior, daughter of close friend, without protection, while leading the moral regeneration campaign and while taking the lead on the anti-aids campaign....

yup, perhaps

and what’s up with the western eyes? please explain this to a "whitey" whose family line has been in Africa for 309 years and the furthest west he has been is Cape Town
 

BTTB

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Yup, knowingly slept with a HIV positive woman, 30 years his junior, daughter of close friend, without protection, while leading the moral regeneration campaign and while taking the lead on the anti-aids campaign....

yup, perhaps

and what’s up with the western eyes? please explain this to a "whitey" whose family line has been in Africa for 309 years and the furthest west he has been is Cape Town
Hello Hoss,

What I was trying to say is that the Zulu's have their cultures.
What is not acceptable to Westernised Cultures, may be OK with the Zulu Culture?
Like having more than one "wife" for example?

I am by no means defending Zuma.
I think what he did was repugnant.
I was just trying to reason why he slept with someone other than his wife? Adultery is no more common in white or black families, but it is more accepted in the latter culture. I am not sure if the Zulu's have a name for it.

The problem with being promiscuous is that you are at a higher risk of getting AIDS, than a couple who marry for life.
KZN has the highest incidence of AIDS in South Africa, maybe the world, probably as a result of this Culture of Promiscuity?

5th Generation here. :)
 

Syndyre

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Condemning him because he intends fighting corruption? Wow!

Seeing as according to the courts he "enjoyed a generally corrupt relationship" its not very surprising people condemn him is it?!
 

kilo39

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That was never proven.
The very fact that one half of the equation was solved, ie, Shaiks "generally corrupt relationship with Zoooma" leads inexorably to the solving of the other half, ie, if Shaik had a generally corrupt relationship with Zuma then the inverse must be true. It is proven otherwise whom is Shaik (guilty) having the relationship with? The other half is automatically true - whether on not found guilty in a court of law.

Why don't you 'get' this?

ergo: zuma can never equal mandela

as zuma is "generally corrupt."
 
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