{"id":5096,"date":"2008-09-04T12:32:00","date_gmt":"2008-09-04T10:32:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2008-09-04T12:32:00","modified_gmt":"2008-09-04T10:32:00","slug":"online-immigration-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/internet\/5096-online-immigration-debate.html","title":{"rendered":"Online immigration debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bloggers from all corners took part in a live debate on embracing immigrants in the Nelson Mandela Bay community on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>The Herald and Weekend Post hosted the debate, chaired by veteran journalist Paddi Clay, as part of The Friendly City Project. <\/p>\n<p>It featured opinions from prominent Mandela Bay community members Mamisa Chabula-Nxiweni, Nomkhita Mona, George Irvine, Odwa Mtati and Janet Cherry.<\/p>\n<p>Clay opened the discussion by asking if the fewer outbreaks of xenophobic violence in Nelson Mandela Bay earlier this year were because there were fewer foreign nationals in the community.<\/p>\n<p>Mtati&lsquo;s response highlighted that the majority of foreigners are not dispersed throughout the city, as in Johannesburg. <\/p>\n<p>Instead, they are concentrated, or perhaps isolated, in one or two areas, away from the rest of the community.<\/p>\n<p>Clay then asked if separate areas should be demarcated for different groups.<\/p>\n<p>This provoked a lengthy discussion amongst the panelists. Their views differed slightly, but all agreed integration was key in embracing foreigners.<\/p>\n<p>Cherry said: &ldquo;We need to promote integration and service delivery instead of isolating immigrants.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Chabula-Nxiweni said immigrants could at times provide scarce services that South Africans could not competently render.<\/p>\n<p>Mtati, on the other hand, said effective policing was necessary to ensure all perpetrators of crime were dealt with accordingly. &ldquo;Criminals mustn&lsquo;t feel South Africa is a nice place to live,&rdquo; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Mona pointed out that immigrants were often forced to leave their country. &ldquo;We should treat them with dignity &#8230; they need to become part of us.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Chabula-Nxiweni said: &ldquo;They should accept and understand they&lsquo;re in a country that&lsquo;s not theirs; they&lsquo;re in a land with different laws and practices.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>There was an overwhelming response from the online environment, as many shared their views and commented on what the panelists were discussing.<\/p>\n<p>Some respondents blamed foreigners, especially Nigerians, for the high crime rate, for their contribution to drugs, hijackings and prostitution. <\/p>\n<p>However, one respondent pointed out that not all Nigerians were responsible for crime, with some of them contributing positively to the region.<\/p>\n<p>Another asked if people were only made aware of the criminal element. &ldquo;How many law- abiding Nigerians are in our city?&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>One blogger said: &ldquo;We are no longer able to discipline our children anymore thanks to them. Foreigners entice our kids with money to do drug dealing and prostitution.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>The media also came in for blame. A respondent, from the UK, asked how The Herald felt about contributing to such a sensitive debate and wondered if this was the main issue raised by its readers.<\/p>\n<p>Another asked why white illegal immigrants were referred to as foreigners and blacks as illegal immigrants, and said the media was responsible for creating labels that sent xenophobic messages.<\/p>\n<p>The home affairs department also came under fire. Saying the department could not deal effectively with South Africans, a respondent asked how it could then deal with foreigners&lsquo; issues.<\/p>\n<p>Some respondents said foreigners could not be blamed for everything. &ldquo;We are the ones giving the Nigerians the market. We should stop buying drugs from them. Let&lsquo;s clean up our acts first before we point fingers at other people.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Others said that addressing the problem efficiently should start with South Africans, and that foreigners could not be expected to respect the country&lsquo;s laws and cultures if citizens themselves did not.<\/p>\n<p>Roderick Chimombe was unable to participate as a panelist in the live debate, but gave The Herald his views. He does not believe crime starts with foreigners, but with the community.<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;South Africa belongs to all who are staying in it &#8230; foreigners should be integrated into the local communities.&rdquo; <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/vb\/showthread.php?t=134191\"><strong>Online immigration debate &#8211; give your views<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Online debate sparks lively response from all corners<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_sma_x_autopost_status":"idle","_sma_x_autopost_error":"","_sma_x_post_id":"","_sma_facebook_post_id":"","_sma_instagram_post_id":"","_sma_threads_post_id":"","_sma_x_attempts":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5096","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-internet"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5096"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5096"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5096\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5096"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5096"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mybroadband.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5096"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}